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God Is a Problem

Starise

Member
Anything you worship is god. It could be yourself which IMO would be unfortunate knowing our vast limitations as humans.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Anything you worship is god. It could be yourself which IMO would be unfortunate knowing our vast limitations as humans.
The thread is not about god, but about God. Proper noun as indicated in the OP.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
You could apply the same idea to the original language of Saivism.
Yes, probably, although it could be argued there are two languages ... Sanskrit, and Tamil. The best anybody has done for a short version is "Siva is immanent love and transcendent reality".

In Hebrew, just how many roles (and words explaining them) are there? But back to the topic, it certainly seems to me that 'God' does an injustice to a lot of religions. In Islam, I think they use 'Allah' only, and never 'God' although I could be wrong.
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
No, not the being, deity, concept, or whatever you call God, but the name itself, especially in interfaith discourse or when speaking to the non-religious.

I've seen "God" (note the capitalization rendering the word a proper noun) used to describe everything from a personal deity, to a creator, to an underlying substratum for reality, to existence itself, and many things between. Yet people use the word even when their religion or culture has another name for it.

An example off the top of my head is Ramakrishna apparently referring to Nirguna Brahman as "God" in The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna. Of course, what he means is understood by Vedantins and probably most Hindus, but the meaning of the term is likely lost on people outside of this subset.

What does "God" refer to in your religion or culture?

Do you agree that use of the term is problematic outside of your own religion or culture? If not, how do you reconcile the differences? If so, what do you think can be done to communicate what is being referred to in interfaith dialogue or conversations with the non-religious?
I do not see it as a problem, just a chance to grow. The Godless may always have an issue with "God".

As God has many Names and Attributes, many come to see an individual name and attribute as "God", which is not entirely incorrect.

Regards Tony
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
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Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
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Also, here's the topic:
"No, not the being, deity, concept, or whatever you call God, but the name itself
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Quagmire

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TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
No, not the being, deity, concept, or whatever you call God, but the name itself, especially in interfaith discourse or when speaking to the non-religious.
I see It is impossible to separate the meaning of the name from the name itself.

When the name God is evoked, it is calling upon one's concept of a power beyond ones own capacity or an elementthat we are not in control of.

It is most likely the misuse of the Name that has become an issue.

Regards Tony
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do you make gods up?
The reason I made up my concept of God while I was a Deist/New Age person (more of the latter since I believed in guardian Angels/Spirits), was that it was all too easy, just to attribute what I wanted towards God as he is unseen and build what I desire of the Creator.

It was foolishness. I would say God won't punish anyone, would forgive everybody, etc... Came up with my own concept since I wanted everyone I knew to enter paradise and not go to hell.

It's easy to look away from God, travel a different sky/spiritual reality as there are Jinn/Genies/Spirits who do the same and attribute their direction to God and say they worship the true Creator.

These Jinn can make it seem spiritually uplifting to believe in their direction as they channel their energy. To me, it felt like I was travelling and enlightened.

Ahlulbayt (a) and Prophets (a) and close Angels (a) may have appeared ugly if I died in this condition on death. Satan would probably become my master after being questioned by Angels, and I would probably see the Angels bringing me torment as evil after death.

Then on day of judgment, I would be proven the truth, but it would be too late.

It's upon God to guide the way and from it are misleading ways, and if he wished, he would've guided us all together (paraphrasing a Surah Nahl verse).

The paths travelled away from God truly lead away from God.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
But you know what the term gods mean.

Based on my own vague understanding of what the term "god" means and ignoring any cultural context, I probably would say that the Trinitarian godhead is three gods, and that Satan, angels and demons/jinn in the Christian and Muslim traditions are gods.

Both of these points get strong obections from believers, so you tell me: do I know what the term "god" means?
 
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