God is angry at religion

[LovingChild]

You forgot to mention that the persecution was mostly being done by the Christians and the first movement was backed by an emperor who gave Christians more than enough immunity

Hi, dear Sterling. Yes, you are right. But still the bible survived until today! :yes:

 

[LovingChild]

This are very inspiring things you have said just now. I do not believe that what we experience is somehow meant for us. God does not send down his message and ask for such petty ritualistic commandments.
As to what is deemed pure and what is deemed impure to be within the presence of god I do not know.
Perhaps it is merely a fact of believing in his existence and his greatness. I am not sure

Man chose to go the way of death instead the recommended way of life that God wanted us to go. So what we experience today is the result of our our free will choice.

And in order to know what "is deemed pure and what is deemed impure to be within the presence of God" - read the bible and try to apply it to your very life.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome." (1.John5:3)

Love, LovingChild

 

[Thief]

This are very inspiring things you have said just now. I do not believe that what we experience is somehow meant for us. God does not send down his message and ask for such petty ritualistic commandments.
As to what is deemed pure and what is deemed impure to be within the presence of god I do not know.
Perhaps it is merely a fact of believing in his existence and his greatness. I am not sure

Thank you.

Having read Job, alleged to be the oldest portion of the bible.....
I see that to be in the presence of God can be......difficult.

I also see from the onset of that story.....
God had nothing to prove....
Job had nothing to prove....
It was the devil that went tempting to assert himself as worthy more so than the least of God's servants.

I hope I am not the only one to have noticed the insult to the devil's face.

God would prefer the presence, the least of His servants.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Thank you.

Having read Job, alleged to be the oldest portion of the bible.....
I see that to be in the presence of God can be......difficult.

I also see from the onset of that story.....
God had nothing to prove....
Job had nothing to prove....
It was the devil that went tempting to assert himself as worthy more so than the least of God's servants.

I hope I am not the only one to have noticed the insult to the devil's face.

God would prefer the presence, the least of His servants.

I do not believe god judges us for following a certain creed but for our sincerity of what we know. Good and evil is far too subjective for god to judge mankind by but I do believe only he knows what is destined for us and what is worthy to be in his presence.
Concepts such as reincarnation/samsara/rebirth try solving this. By constant experience we are able to live a more just life from continuous trial and error. I cannot say if it is true or not but it is surely plausible.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I also see from the onset of that story.....
God had nothing to prove....
Job had nothing to prove....

Actually, Job did have something to prove. As Satan said, he was never tested. Satan, at least in Judaism, is the mettle-tester of God. He was testing Job, not himself, as you will note there was no rebuking of Satan from God throughout the book.

 

[Thief]

Actually, Job did have something to prove. As Satan said, he was never tested. Satan, at least in Judaism, is the mettle-tester of God. He was testing Job, not himself, as you will note there was no rebuking of Satan from God throughout the book.

Nay.
It was the devil attempting to prove himself greater than the least of God's servants.

You do understand the insult?
The presence of Job is preferred?

Who is greater?....who serves who?

And Job was not privy to the oncoming assault.
He was blind-sided.

 

[Thief]

I do not believe god judges us for following a certain creed but for our sincerity of what we know. Good and evil is far too subjective for god to judge mankind by but I do believe only he knows what is destined for us and what is worthy to be in his presence.
Concepts such as reincarnation/samsara/rebirth try solving this. By constant experience we are able to live a more just life from continuous trial and error. I cannot say if it is true or not but it is surely plausible.

Picture to play of action...with you in it.

Your Friend is across the road having a bad discussion with someone of size.
A moment of silence....and then your Friend's Adversary.....
moves right to you and proceeds to stomp you into the dust.

Your Friend makes no move.

In this scenario....you at least saw it coming.

 

[Thief]

Taking the op title to focus.....yeah
God would indeed be angry with religion.

No doubt, the notions that have developed and the blood shed dealt....
would be the most infuriating sensations anyone could endure.

See it From His point of view....yes you can.

All those prayers in repition.....in spite of instruction not to.
The idea that killing an animal makes your responsibility go up in ritual flame and smoke.
That your neighbor is worthy of death because he doesn't believe like you do.

I could go on.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Nay.
It was the devil attempting to prove himself greater than the least of God's servants.

You do understand the insult?
The presence of Job is preferred?

Who is greater?....who serves who?

And Job was not privy to the oncoming assault.
He was blind-sided.

You're reading into a situation. I am extrapolating given the book and culture as defined through historical record.

Nay, and such.

 

[Thief]

You're reading into a situation. I am extrapolating given the book and culture as defined through historical record.

Nay, and such.

You get out of a story what you can.

It's not history.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Picture to play of action...with you in it.

Your Friend is across the road having a bad discussion with someone of size.
A moment of silence....and then your Friend's Adversary.....
moves right to you and proceeds to stomp you into the dust.

Your Friend makes no move.

In this scenario....you at least saw it coming.

I do not understand this at all. It makes no sense and has no relevance. Please explain what you are trying to imply

 

[Thief]

I do not understand this at all. It makes no sense and has no relevance. Please explain what you are trying to imply

Job's point of view.

As the book of Job plays through...Job is unaware how the story started.
He doesn't know he has been targeted.