God is cruel

[Spiderman]

I think I just may have lost a friend I prayed the Rosary with because we got in a conversation about the book of revelation and I said I thought it was ridiculous. Then I said the Bible contradicts itself. Then I said God is cruel.

Truly I think God is cruel. He watches so many people in agony and refuses to console them. But what I find very cruel is he wont even speak clear messages to people. He watches throughout history Muslims persecute and kill non-muslims, non-muslims kill Muslims, Christians kill pagans, Catholics kill protestants and vice versa, and repeatedly God refuses to speak clear messages to people, but by doing so he could end such division and killings. The reason there is so much division is God could guide people and he refuses.

For God to see so much agony and refuse to speak up is just cruel. I'm not saying God can be to blame for everything. People need to take some responsibility for our choices and our misery, but I don't think people would make a lot of those choices if they would hear God speak clear messages to them.

If I were God, there would be no such thing as Atheists because I would speak up to people. Would there seriously be Atheists if God actually was willing to speak to everyone?

I would console all hurting people. If I saw a kid getting raped, tortured, and murdered, I would defend them. To not do so is just plain cruel! God could do so without it costing him a thing and he refuses. It's just disgusting!

Shame on you Mr. God! I know you're reading this!!

 

[Luciferi Baphomet]

Truly I think God is cruel. He watches so many people in agony and refuses to console them.

Because he expects more prayer and worship. Meaning the more they pray to him the more power they give him. God desires power.

For God to see so much agony and refuse to speak up is just cruel. I'm not saying God can be to blame for everything. People need to take some responsibility for our choices and our misery, but I don't think people would make a lot of those choices if they would hear God speak clear messages to them.

It is the same when christians use Lucifer as a scapegoat.

If I saw a kid getting raped, tortured, and murdered, I would defend them.

I would help too if I can.

 

[Deidre]

God could have not given us all free will, and then we could all be His puppets or drones. With positive things coming from free will, unfortunately also comes bad things. I've heard that people feel God giving His creation free will is what makes Him cruel, but I think differently.

 

[Spiderman]

God could have not given us all free will, and then we could all be His puppets or drones. With positive things coming from free will, unfortunately also comes bad things. I've heard that people feel God giving His creation free will is what makes Him cruel, but I think differently.

Free will is not what I have a problem with. If God would speak up, we would use our free will differently

 

[Deidre]

Free will is not what I have a problem with. If God would speak up, we would use our free will differently

He does speak, but we often don't listen, IMO.

 

[Spiderman]

He does speak, but we often don't listen, IMO.

Well, I've always liked your quote "follow thy heart". That is truly where he speaks

 

[Thief]

I think I just may have lost a friend I prayed the Rosary with because we got in a conversation about the book of revelation and I said I thought it was ridiculous. Then I said the Bible contradicts itself. Then I said God is cruel.

Truly I think God is cruel. He watches so many people in agony and refuses to console them. But what I find very cruel is he wont even speak clear messages to people. He watches throughout history Muslims persecute and kill non-muslims, non-muslims kill Muslims, Christians kill pagans, Catholics kill protestants and vice versa, and repeatedly God refuses to speak clear messages to people, but by doing so he could end such division and killings. The reason there is so much division is God could guide people and he refuses.

For God to see so much agony and refuse to speak up is just cruel. I'm not saying God can be to blame for everything. People need to take some responsibility for our choices and our misery, but I don't think people would make a lot of those choices if they would hear God speak clear messages to them.

If I were God, there would be no such thing as Atheists because I would speak up to people. Would there seriously be Atheists if God actually was willing to speak to everyone?

I would console all hurting people. If I saw a kid getting raped, tortured, and murdered, I would defend them. To not do so is just plain cruel! God could do so without it costing him a thing and he refuses. It's just disgusting!

Shame on you Mr. God! I know you're reading this!!

you know God is reading this?
and yet you post as you do?

 

[Spiderman]

you know God is reading this?
and yet you post as you do?

Yes...My hope is God will listen to reason and understand why im pissed

 

[Spiderman]

I think sometimes God needs people who will fight him. It can motivate him to bestow graces on earth. God wants people to like him

 

[Luciferi Baphomet]

Yes...My hope is God will listen to reason and understand why im pissed

I honestly don't think he would care. You could try and try. Don't waste your time on him.

 

[psychoslice]

Free will is not what I have a problem with. If God would speak up, we would use our free will differently

But why do we need a god to speak up, can't we do that for ourselves, like I don't need a god to tell me what is right and what is wrong, thankfully I have the intelligence to know that for my self.

 

[psychoslice]

I think sometimes God needs people who will fight him. It can motivate him to bestow graces on earth. God wants people to like him

Yes he sounds very insecure.

 

[Spiderman]

But why do we need a god to speak up, can't we do that for ourselves, like I don't need a god to tell me what is right and what is wrong, thankfully I have the intelligence to know that for my self.

If God would speak up, there would be no more division about what to believe. There would be no more people who think he is an imaginary being.

The truth is, I don't know what to believe on many issues. I guess I don't have the intelligence. I envy you

 

[Luciferi Baphomet]

like I don't need a god to tell me what is right and what is wrong, thankfully I have the intelligence to know that for my self.

You are right about that. We learn to figure those things ourselves even if someone tells us right and wrong.

 

[Luciferi Baphomet]

I think sometimes God needs people who will fight him. It can motivate him to bestow graces on earth. God wants people to like him

We don't need to fight god. We also don't need to waste our time and energy on him.

 

[psychoslice]

If God would speak up, there would be no more division about what to believe. There would be no more people who think he is an imaginary being.

The truth is, I don't know what to believe on many issues. I guess I don't have the intelligence. I envy you

Of course you do. you naughty boy, just drop god for awhile and try doing it on your own.

 

[psychoslice]

You are right about that. We learn to figure those things ourselves even if someone tells us right and wrong.

Yes so true, and this is one reason I have a thread titled, "is religion making us all stupid".

 

[bobhikes]

I think I just may have lost a friend I prayed the Rosary with because we got in a conversation about the book of revelation and I said I thought it was ridiculous. Then I said the Bible contradicts itself. Then I said God is cruel.

Truly I think God is cruel. He watches so many people in agony and refuses to console them. But what I find very cruel is he wont even speak clear messages to people. He watches throughout history Muslims persecute and kill non-muslims, non-muslims kill Muslims, Christians kill pagans, Catholics kill protestants and vice versa, and repeatedly God refuses to speak clear messages to people, but by doing so he could end such division and killings. The reason there is so much division is God could guide people and he refuses.

For God to see so much agony and refuse to speak up is just cruel. I'm not saying God can be to blame for everything. People need to take some responsibility for our choices and our misery, but I don't think people would make a lot of those choices if they would hear God speak clear messages to them.

If I were God, there would be no such thing as Atheists because I would speak up to people. Would there seriously be Atheists if God actually was willing to speak to everyone?

I would console all hurting people. If I saw a kid getting raped, tortured, and murdered, I would defend them. To not do so is just plain cruel! God could do so without it costing him a thing and he refuses. It's just disgusting!

Shame on you Mr. God! I know you're reading this!!

Why does god need to make this life in your image? If God directly influenced you life could you really have choice? You have lived how long on this earth, you have seen how much loss how are you able to judge God?

Blame whomever you want, as long as you blame others you will never find the truth.

 

[psychoslice]

I personally believe that those who need a god in their life to tell them what they should do, are full of guilt, for whatever reason.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I voted no. I can't view something I don't even believe is real as cruel. Which would mean that any supposed cruelty God is being blamed for either comes from misfortune or from humans.