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God is disproven by science? Really?

If you understand his paper maybe you can explain it to me, I've asked him repeatedly and either get insulted or ignored. If I understand it then maybe I can challenge it. As it stands I have no idea what needs to be challenged.
Sure thing maybe over a Chobani with some fresh fruit and using our favorite utensil the spork.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I guess it's just a personal thing. God / Creator has been described as a personal God
Which is an odd thing since we don't see any examples of a God intervening on behalf of people. Miracles do not come true. I keep bringing up children with cancer because to my mind it is worse than abortion. And if Christians push a moral argument against abortions while their personal God allows children to be born, suffer and die from cancers, well, their whole moral universe collapses.

The vastly more plausible God would be an impersonal God that is indifferent tot he suffering of humans. Deism is the more rational approach, albeit still completely without evidence.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
So I would need to know the origin of the Big Bang to see that it’s bogus?
Only once you respect science. Thus far you only show contempt for science.

Sickness, death, disease are all a result of Adam and Eve rebellion against God. Satan also is the prince and power of the air, has some temporary power to kill, steal and destroy for now. So malaria is temporary until the end of this age when Satan and all those who have rebelled against God will be judged and thrown into the Lake of Fire. Everyone else who has repented, believed the Gospel and been born again will live with God forever in Heaven where there is no more death or disease. So God warned us and we rebelled, paid the price for that, but God redeemed us.
None of this is true. This is a complex religious belief you hold and has no basis in reality, so we throw it out.

No because it doesn’t happen as you said here:
If you're asking whether we've seen living organisms emerge from non-living components (in the sense of abiogenesis), then the answer is no, we haven't. As I said earlier, the origin of life on earth remains a mystery. That's why scientists continue to research it.
We defer to experts in science to report their findings. we accept their findings. You have contempt for scientists because you have religious bias. So your opinion is irrelevant.

I didn’t say that Genesis says that but what it does say is how God created by speaking things into existence so that’s what I’m going with on land and water.
Genesis is not truth or factual, so it isn't a reliable source for how things are in the universe. This is why we trust scientists and not those with religious bias. Until you respect scientists your opinions are irrelevant.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
If you understand his paper maybe you can explain it to me, I've asked him repeatedly and either get insulted or ignored. If I understand it then maybe I can challenge it. As it stands I have no idea what needs to be challenged.
I don't think it is a question of not understanding, I think there is nothing to understand.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I don't think it is a question of not understanding, I think there is nothing to understand.

Apparently so. I'm beginning to doubt if he's read Mr Id's papers or watched his videos. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only person stupid enough to do it.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Don’t see the wisdom in the scientific propaganda and the big guessing game. Science has its place and then the false interpretation of the findings.
Science is not propaganda. I don't know what false interpretations you are referring to. Science isn't religion where conclusions are based on what a particular scientist believes without evidence.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Apparently so. I'm beginning to doubt if he's read Mr Id's papers or watched his videos. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only person stupid enough to do it.
I believe someone mentioned something about sheep and their opinion of what sheep do. Perhaps we were witness to one of life's little ironies.

I've read them and watched the videos too. It may be time I'll never get back, but I don't think it was completely worthless. The nonsense about discovering intelligence, probabilities over 100%, claims about being a scientist, never lost a debate, falsifying the theory of evolution, eggs shot through tissue etc., sure, but...well it may have been stupid of me to watch more than one or read more than one paper.
 
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