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God Is Everything

Adol

Member
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?

If some people say Fairy King is your mouth, then would you say you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists?

If some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon, then would you say you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists?

Is "some people say God is banana &c." good evidence for God's existence?
Is "some people say Fairy King is your mouth" good evidence for Fairy King's existence?
Is "some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon" good evidence for Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence?

Should we believe God is banana &c.? What is the evidence that God is banana &c.?
Should we believe Fairy King is your mouth? What is the evidence that Fairy King is your mouth?
Should we believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon? What is the evidence that Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?

If some people say Fairy King is your mouth, then would you say you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists?

If some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon, then would you say you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists?

Is "some people say God is banana &c." good evidence for God's existence?
Is "some people say Fairy King is your mouth" good evidence for Fairy King's existence?
Is "some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon" good evidence for Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence?

Should we believe God is banana &c.? What is the evidence that God is banana &c.?
Should we believe Fairy King is your mouth? What is the evidence that Fairy King is your mouth?
Should we believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon? What is the evidence that Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon?

Well, if someone is just using different words to signify different things, then that may be just (mis)using language, but it wouldn't be evidence to prove anything about any physical object or state of being.

God is a banana? I'm not even sure what that means. I guess Chiquita Banana would be the Mother of God in that scenario. In any case, I am a strong believer in freedom of religion, so I respect anyone's right to worship bananas if they so choose.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything.
What was the context of them saying this?
Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c.
If everything is God, nothing is God.
Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?
When they say Atheist don’t believe God exist, they are referring to a specific view of God. The reality is there are lots of things and people (like nature, the Sun, people as real as you and I) who are called God by worshipers that atheists do believe exist, but don’t call God.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists.
Do you have evidence that these theists wonder this? Do you have evidence these theists you heard exist?

Is you saying you heard these theists that wonder these things good evidence for their existence?
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything.
I think it is not what the Bible tells. Interestingly, Bible says:

to seek the Lord, if perhaps they might feel after Him and might find Him, though indeed He not being far from each one of us. For in Him we live and move and exist, as also some of the poets among you have said, For we are also His offspring.
Acts 17:27-28

It is also said that God is spirit and love:

God is a spirit, and the ones worshiping Him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

Beloved, let us love one another, because love is of God, and everyone who loves has been born of God, and knows God. The one who does not love has not known God, because God is love.
1 John 4:7-8
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?
Because the theists don't make the claim that god exists, they make the claim that an existing thing is equal to god. The atheists rejects that claim.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
"Everything is God" is just half of an empty tautology. And as with most tautologies, it may be true but is nevertheless irrelevant because it's completely self-referential.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?

If some people say Fairy King is your mouth, then would you say you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists?

If some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon, then would you say you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists?

Is "some people say God is banana &c." good evidence for God's existence?
Is "some people say Fairy King is your mouth" good evidence for Fairy King's existence?
Is "some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon" good evidence for Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence?

Should we believe God is banana &c.? What is the evidence that God is banana &c.?
Should we believe Fairy King is your mouth? What is the evidence that Fairy King is your mouth?
Should we believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon? What is the evidence that Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon?
If you read scripture, try applying this concept when doing so:

All is in God - but nothing on its own, is God.


Humbly,
Hermit
 

chinu

chinu
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?

If some people say Fairy King is your mouth, then would you say you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists?

If some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon, then would you say you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists?

Is "some people say God is banana &c." good evidence for God's existence?
Is "some people say Fairy King is your mouth" good evidence for Fairy King's existence?
Is "some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon" good evidence for Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence?

Should we believe God is banana &c.? What is the evidence that God is banana &c.?
Should we believe Fairy King is your mouth? What is the evidence that Fairy King is your mouth?
Should we believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon? What is the evidence that Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon?
God is NOT everything. God is inside everything.
For example: like there's butter in the milk, similarly, God is inside each and everything that exists in this world inculding Fairy King, Flying Spaghetti etc if they are. :)
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
"Everything is God" is just half of an empty tautology. And as with most tautologies, it may be true but is nevertheless irrelevant because it's completely self-referential.
It may seem that way if examined superficially. But deification is an appellation that indicates a particular sort of relationship the deifier has with that deified. More specifically, it indicates the subject doing the deification considers something worthy of worship, or sacred. This is not an empty tautology - if someone deifies all reality, it means they have a sacred or worshipful relationship with the universe as a whole.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
"Everything is God" is just half of an empty tautology. And as with most tautologies, it may be true but is nevertheless irrelevant because it's completely self-referential.
True, it's vague, ambiguous and as incoherent as your empty tautology. Nothing new here.
 

DNB

Christian
Sometime ago I heard some theists say God is everything. Everything would include banana, tomato, car, house, humans &c. Since atheists generally believe those things exists, then those theists wonder why atheists don't believe God(banana &c.) exists. Can any atheist explain why you don't believe God(banana &c.) exists?

If some people say Fairy King is your mouth, then would you say you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Fairy King(your mouth) exists?

If some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon, then would you say you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists? Can you explain why you don't believe Flying Spaghetti Monster(moon) exists?

Is "some people say God is banana &c." good evidence for God's existence?
Is "some people say Fairy King is your mouth" good evidence for Fairy King's existence?
Is "some people say Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon" good evidence for Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence?

Should we believe God is banana &c.? What is the evidence that God is banana &c.?
Should we believe Fairy King is your mouth? What is the evidence that Fairy King is your mouth?
Should we believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon? What is the evidence that Flying Spaghetti Monster is moon?
Is someone's idea of a sensible post, good evidence that it is actually sensible?
Just because someone starts a thread on this forum, are we to assume that it's worth responding to?
Should we believe that this OP is worth the time? What is the evidence that it's worth the time?
 
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