How could one prove god?
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God is simple, not complex
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outhouse
Atheistically
Non sequitur to our discussion here. Philosophical theology only exist in a classroom
What is there to understand outside the wiki link? Nothing is substantiated, and nothing in that personal opinion can or does apply to the definition of the god concept.
outhouse
Atheistically
Which god?
outhouse
Atheistically
To date, nothing exist outside the concept. God does not scientifically exist because there is nothing to test for.
Your call. You're the one asking.
Prove it.
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
Has any believer in any God proved that their God exists?
Do you know of any measurements that, when made, would settle the debate concerning the existence of God?
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
But....you just.....told someone....to....
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
I'd prefer answers to a like.
outhouse
Atheistically
First of all. Lets pick one god and look at how only man defines the concept.
You want to go back to the origin? Lest look at how the Abrahamic god was born in mythology.
. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah
At an early stage El and Yahweh became fused
So here we see Israelites defining the monotheistic god from two deities. They compiled the two together.
We also know King Josiah was a loyal Yahwist and had the bible redacted to monotheism. So a political decision made the one god concept.
We see some early Israelites as early as 800BC attributing Els divinity to Yahweh including Asherah Els wife, now viewed as Yahwehs wife.
Monotheism was not even fully accepted by all Israelites until roughly 200-400 BC .
That's rhetoric.
outhouse
Atheistically
Here is the kicker! we are not debating something ontological.
We are debating different peoples definitions of what the god concept means to them.
Reflex
Active Member
Read again what I said. I said the post was idiotic, especially given all the prior information that was, apparently, either not read or simply not understood.
It's more than just an extra keystroke, but a way to designate the ontological distinction between Ultimate Reality, if you will, and (real or imagined) demiurges, like Santa or the FSM. Hinduism, too, make a similar distinction.
Let's look at definition, and realise how only man defines anything and everything, real or concept.
Yes. Joseph Campbell already taught about similarities of motif amongst mythological traditions.
He also noted a god.
Then what are you expecting proof of?
The image of the Ultimate Reality and the image of the demigod are both images.
Reflex
Active Member
Yeah....that's the problem with words: they are misleading because they operate in the realm of imaged ideas. But reality, or in this instance what I called "Ultimate Reality," is not a concept. I think you understand that.
outhouse
Atheistically
We have plenty of mythological proof. We see god being defined willy nilly in ancient times in only mythological terms.
God more or less amounts to ones positive and good thoughts one has in his conscious mind, because these primitive people did not think a person could make his own decisions.
If one had many good thoughts and spoke of god he was a prophet plain and simple.
Kings and Emperors defined gods, groups of common men wrote and defined god and later people in power redefined that concept.
What Am I expecting when someone claims their god exist outside of mythology? something outside mythology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But instead what we actually see, is god described a thousand different ways under the premise of 3 major definition changes in the 3 Abrahamic religions, and every last one of those was man made.