God Recreated the Earth 6,000 Years Ago!

[Thief]

Your skipped the part that there's a difference between the terms based on the leading modifier, which also called an adjective.

and mathematicians are made to deal with items they cannot prove....

your point?

 

[Ouroboros]

and mathematicians are made to deal with items they cannot prove....

Uh... what? Math is everything about proof. That's all my son is doing at the moment at Berkeley.

your point?

That you're misquoting Wikipedia to prove your point. It doesn't say what you said.

 

[Thief]

Science take everyone to the point of singularity and then stops.
when no photo, fingerprint, equation or repeatable experiment......no proof of anything....

but science remains persistent....
nothing moves of it's own volition.

the substance did not just go ....bang...

Spirit first

 

[Thief]

Uh... what? Math is everything about proof. That's all my son is doing at the moment at Berkeley.


That you're misquoting Wikipedia to prove your point. It doesn't say what you said.

yes it does...a direct drag and drop

 

[Ouroboros]

yes it does...a direct drag and drop

Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

Now tell me in which sentence and context it says, "sure until proven false."

 

[Thief]

Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

Now tell me in which sentence and context it says, "sure until proven false."

won't do your homework for you

 

[Ouroboros]

won't do your homework for you

Hint...

It doesn't say "sure until proven false."

It's not a copy-n-paste at all. It's not verbatim. It's rather your spin or interpretation of it (and wrongly so).

I obviously can do my homework better than you. You failed.

 

[fantome profane]

A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven.[29]
.........wiki

but since no one can prove there is no God.....

it's valid to theorize.....there is a God

Wow, it is right there, you quote it in your post and then immediately contradict it.

Therefore, theories can be disproven.

wiki
Try it again, read this. It is only four words. I am sure you are capable of this.

theories can be disproven.

wiki


Theories

Can

Be

Disproven!


Got it?

So therefor since "God" cannot be disproven, "God" is not a scientific theory.

 

[McBell]

won't do your homework for you

Of course not.
You have a long history of ditching everything once it gets you where you want to be.
The truth be damned.

 

[outhouse]

Spirit first

No mythology first, belief in it second.

 

[outhouse]

but science remains persistent....

With the truth you refuse

 

[Thief]

Wow, it is right there, you quote it in your post and then immediately contradict it.
wiki
Try it again, read this. It is only four words. I am sure you are capable of this.
wiki


Theories

Can

Be

Disproven!


Got it?

So therefor since "God" cannot be disproven, "God" is not a scientific theory.

oh....so you did notice....?

for years we've had this boo hoo wah wah about which type of argument is greater....

depending on what you prefer.....
it all works for me.

prove me wrong....

 

[Thief]

science led me to the method of belief I hold true.
I then propose the existence of God.

based on science as science would insist....
substance does not move of its own volition.

Spirit first.

prove me wrong

 

[McBell]

prove me wrong

declaration of incompetence.

The onus is on you to prove you are right.
Since you know you are unable to prove you are right, you try to get others to prove you are wrong.

A last ditch effort of desperation.

Now comes the denial.

 

[BilliardsBall]

You ignore the evidence against your view namely dating methods. Your driven by your bias that a literal interpretation of the bible is correct when it has been refuted for centuries.



The tithe is only an example of you follow a dictate of a religion not that the religion is true. Also Jesus' sacrifice has no evidence suggesting that it did anything besides cause his death and start a new religion. You accept the narrative as true but the narrative is not evidence of truth itself.

No, I'm conversant with a number of dating methods but also, their shortcomings.

No, I have not only my anecdotal evidence but the evidence compiled from other tithers. I give money away and get more money.

No, the narrative of the NT is true because prophecy is fulfilled. Even now, we can see prophecy fulfilled--such as the prophecies of the Bible that the Jews would be both shining lights and despised in the diaspora. This has come true in 100 countries for 2,000 years. Study prophecy, be open minded, pray, you will become a believer!

 

[BilliardsBall]

There is factually none.

Its why you don't post it, and no one else knows about this



You don't study creation

You imagine it based on ancient mens mythology



No you factually do not

Of course there is evidence, but God told me not to post it to you, and that He awaits a conversation with you.

 

[BilliardsBall]

And that's the problem with the belief in God, or faith as if you like, required people to wish it to be true.

Wishing IS NOT EVIDENCE. Wishing is in the realm of FAITH.

If you had "EVIDENCE" in God, then you would bloody well need FAITH.

Faith is believing in anything to be true, without evidences.

This is why FAITH is nothing more than wishful thinking. And that's all you are doing right now.

Interesting, I've tried to limit myself on this thread to the OP. Are you asking me to hijack this thread to provide evidence for God's existence? Surely there's a better forum for this.

Faith is wishful thinking without prophecy, cosmology, history, anthropology, teleology, etc. sure.

 

[BilliardsBall]

If you ever study the Big Bang cosmology, THERE WAS NO EARTH at the beginning.

Genesis 1:1 clearly stated that "heaven" or "heavens" (which originally mean what you could only see - the "sky"; but theists now (so modern theists) associated with outer space and the "universe") and earth, at the same time.



But in the beginning of our observable universe (13.7 billion years), there was no Earth shortly after the Big Bang. In fact there were no stars, no galaxies, no planets.

The first generation of stars didn't form and lit up UNTIL 560 million years AFTER the Big Bang, according to ESA (European Space Agency), from their space telescope Planck that was recently decommissioned.

Our solar system is probably a 3rd generation (or even 4th generation). Our Earth didn't exist 13.2 billion years ago, with the 1st stars; nor did our Sun exist at that time. Our Earth and the solar system didn't form until 9 billion years AFTER the Big Bang.

So basically, Genesis 1:1 is wrong, scientifically, cosmologically and even philosophically. Genesis 1:1 and the Young Earth Creationism (YEC) are wrong on the Big Bang front.



The estimated number of years from the Bible, depending on the sources, like the Greek Septuagint or the Hebrew Masoretic Text (MT), put the creation of Adam to less than 6000 (for MT; I have not calculated the generations within the Septuagint, but I think it probably 7500 years at the most).

(Note that in the Greek Septuagint, tends to add a hundred years to generations of most of each patriarch of Genesis. Unfortunately, we don't have complete genealogy in the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS), but what we do have, seemed to indicate that the DSS was more aligned with the Masoretic Text. Also the genealogy given in the Latin Vulgate Bible is also more in align with the MT too. So I suspect that when they originally translating from Hebrew to Greek, the translators made errors to Genesis in the Septuagint.)

Genesis 1 only say that man and woman were created, but doesn't how. Genesis 2 is a different version of creationism, stated that the 1st man (Adam) was created directly from dust.

It is scientifically impossible to create adult man from dust. That's because creation of man in Genesis 2 is like the Sumerian-Akkadian-Babylonian myths. They are all primitive and have no understanding of biology that you can't make whole adult human being directly from dust. That's because prophets like the people of those time, have no understanding of nature, so they make up stories. Just because there are lot of myths out there, doesn't make any of them - true.

The ancient settlements of Jericho, Uruk and Aleppo are all older than 6000 years (4000 BCE).

But man (Homo sapiens; the modern humans is a subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens) have being around over 200,000 years. That's a huge difference between 200,000 years and 6000 years. The last I have heard, the mitochondrial Eve have been estimated as far back as 240,000 years, or at the very least 99,000 years.

Even with the lesser figure of 99,000 years, that still a huge gap of 93,000 years. This mitochondrial Eve refute the YEC's claim of young earth.

The Australian natives (or Australian Aborigines) have been on this continent, at most 48,000 years, or the minimum of 44,000 years ago. This too refute the whole YEC's claim.

"In the beginning [before Adam and Eve were made] God made the Heavens and the Earth."

He could have made them simultaneously with a younger Earth near the center and an older universe stretching out per relativity. I will not argue with you further if you deny that time is relative based on location and light.

 

[jeager106]

Of course there is evidence, but God told me not to post it to you, and that He awaits a conversation with you.

Aw gee-whiz. Not another one that says "god" talks to them.
My g-friends daughter is schizophrenic and sees "gods' messages" to her written
in the lawn.
She's better now that her meds have been adjusted.
Not suggesting YOU need meds but it helped her and she doesn't see "god" any
more either.
She is STILL quite entertaining however.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No, I'm conversant with a number of dating methods but also, their shortcomings.

No, I have not only my anecdotal evidence but the evidence compiled from other tithers. I give money away and get more money.

No, the narrative of the NT is true because prophecy is fulfilled. Even now, we can see prophecy fulfilled--such as the prophecies of the Bible that the Jews would be both shining lights and despised in the diaspora. This has come true in 100 countries for 2,000 years. Study prophecy, be open minded, pray, you will become a believer!

I give money to people who need it. I get money back in other ways. I do not believe in god(s). So is that evidence that there is no god?

If it's not, perhaps you could see why it's not evidence that there is a god either?