God talking

[Muffled]

When he said that, was it kinda out of the blue like an inner conversation?

You heard your own thoughts that didnt come from yourself?

The last part is somewhat confirmation of what you heard comes from god and not something else. Without that reference (any, actually) how do you identify it as jesus' voice or ... cant think of the words

I believe if you mean by out of the blue from outside of my own mind the answer would be yes. Yes it is thought projection into my mind but there was no conversation only what I said and His response.

I believe you have that muddled up because thought that didn't come from myself were not my own thoughts.

I believe I operate on faith that if I ask God to answer me that He will not allow another to speak in His place. However it is nice to have God relate things to the Bible since something contrary to the Bible would have me asking a lot of questions.

 

[Fool]

Hmm. When one meditates, for example, our inner voice would be our thoughts. However, while we breathe and do whatever, our thoughts become more clear and distinct. So, our internal conversation reflects that clarity and of our thoughts to help support and work with the body to live and interact. The ego disolves because of clarity through thought and action.

With the gods, that confuses me. Are the gods seperated thoughts? Thoughts attributes to the gods? The universal voice can be gut feeling, a de ja vu, a syncronized event, or revelation of clarity. But people say these explanations are mundane. Why so?

What is the function of using poetic language to a concept most say are indescribable?

i believe the still small voice to be the same for everyone, or universal consciousness. the ego would be different for every god attempting to be superior

 

[Muffled]

Eat too many bananas, though, and you'll glow in the dark.

I believe I am not enamored of bananas so have switched to peanut butter now that I now what it is all about. I can usually tell when my potassium is low because I will get muscle weakness.

 

[George-ananda]

I noticed that (1) believers of both jehovah and (2) elievers in hindu god/desses

Talk as though gods have emotions, can do things, feel, and interact with believers. I always wondered:

1. When god talks to you, say "God said that we are loved; god saved us with his loving grace", does he say this to you directly? Is it a feeling put in poetic words? Is it from a sacred text that you internalize gods words as though god who spoke them are speaking directly to you?

2. I noticed in Hindu DIR, when someone speaks of, say, Vishnu (last Ive seen a good 'while ago), the believer spoke of their experiences in god as though god is interacting with them. So, if god interacts with you, you may say practically the same as above: gods love and compassion. Id have to find other examples, but the expressions are similar given regardless the religion, we have ideally the same senses from different sources.

Given that

When god(s) talk to you and interact, when you express it as god(s) did this and said that, is it (1) something you read and internalized? Someone spoke to you and said god loves you? (2) In your experiences and worship, do the gods communicate compassion and love? When you express it as though the gods speak and interact (which Ive seen it said in a Hindu DIR) something you "felt" the gods say and you find it best to express it in poetic language?

How do you guys express the gods interaction and from what sources (experience? Whatever) does it come and why do you express it as though god actually speaks and interacts and "gives" compassion?

Well I give my answers as a non-dual (God/Brahman and creation are not-two) Hindu.

I differentiate between God/Brahman and gods (lower case 'g'). God/Brahman does not interact in an anthropomorphic way while gods can for our needs.

 

[Nakosis]

How do you guys express the gods interaction and from what sources (experience? Whatever) does it come and why do you express it as though god actually speaks and interacts and "gives" compassion?

It doesn't take much to immerse oneself into a "virtual" experience. Sight, sound, feeling. Anyone of of these can trigger the gestalt experience created by the subconscious mind.

Hearing voices is not uncommon. Most people can recall the sound of a voice. The subconscious mind can create the experience of hearing a voice. It uses the same "circuitry" as an actual audible experience uses. Since it is not a conscious act, it is easy to presume an external source, like God especially if one is religious minded.

So you hear God's voice it triggers a feeling maybe even a visual experience.

I'm not criticizing this as a mental defect, more as just something the subconscious mind is capable of.

Sight, sound, feeling, depending on the individual mind can be just as real to the experiencer as anything you might actually see, hear, feel, to the point where you couldn't consciously determine a difference.

So you hear, see, feel God as a real experience even though the source of the experience is entirely internal. Again the depth of the reality of the experience various from person to person.

I think the human mind is pretty amazing considering what it is capable of. Most of what's going on in the mind we are not conscious of.

 

[BilliardsBall]

I noticed that (1) believers of both jehovah and (2) elievers in hindu god/desses

Talk as though gods have emotions, can do things, feel, and interact with believers. I always wondered:

1. When god talks to you, say "God said that we are loved; god saved us with his loving grace", does he say this to you directly? Is it a feeling put in poetic words? Is it from a sacred text that you internalize gods words as though god who spoke them are speaking directly to you?

2. I noticed in Hindu DIR, when someone speaks of, say, Vishnu (last Ive seen a good 'while ago), the believer spoke of their experiences in god as though god is interacting with them. So, if god interacts with you, you may say practically the same as above: gods love and compassion. Id have to find other examples, but the expressions are similar given regardless the religion, we have ideally the same senses from different sources.

Given that

When god(s) talk to you and interact, when you express it as god(s) did this and said that, is it (1) something you read and internalized? Someone spoke to you and said god loves you? (2) In your experiences and worship, do the gods communicate compassion and love? When you express it as though the gods speak and interact (which Ive seen it said in a Hindu DIR) something you "felt" the gods say and you find it best to express it in poetic language?

How do you guys express the gods interaction and from what sources (experience? Whatever) does it come and why do you express it as though god actually speaks and interacts and "gives" compassion?

I know God personally through Jesus Christ. Jesus is a divine person who can relate to our emotional thoughts, needs and desires. After trusting Him for salvation, I became "in touch" with God emotionally.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

If you speak to me, I hear your voice. The same if "God" speaks, I hear a voice.

So if we turned on a voice recorder we could record a voice?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

1: My experience is that God's instruction feels natural and loving [not extreme] and it's do-able
2: It's the first feeling you have; before the mind pops in

What is our spiritual self and that talks witbout the mind that reflects god speaking? (Like our spirituality speaking through our thoughts not seperate from it)?

What is spiritual thoughts apart from the mind?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I hear a voice, while nobody is around. So that's why I call it a "whisper from the universe". Also because "God" is more abstract.

How do you define voice and its literal function?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Edit.

I believe if you mean by out of the blue from outside of my own mind the answer would be yes. Yes it is thought projection into my mind but there was no conversation only what I said and His response.

Can you describe the nature of the projection?

I believe you have that muddled up because thought that didn't come from myself were not my own thoughts.

But there would need to be something present when the thoughts go. What is that something that didnt come from yourself?

I believe I operate on faith that if I ask God to answer me that He will not allow another to speak in His place. However it is nice to have God relate things to the Bible since something

He will not allow--this is why I wonder...does this view come from the bible? Do you "feel" what god allows as though you are part of gods actions?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I differentiate between God/Brahman and gods (lower case 'g'). God/Brahman does not interact in an anthropomorphic way while gods can for our needs.

How do the gods interact with you and in what matter do you express it and how?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I know God personally through Jesus Christ. Jesus is a divine person who can relate to our emotional thoughts, needs and desires. After trusting Him for salvation, I became "in touch" with God emotionally.

How does jesus relate to your thoughts?

Is it something you read in scripture or something you just felt?

If the latter, how so?

 

[George-ananda]

How do the gods interact with you and in what matter do you express it and how?

I don’t interact with them myself. There are various paths in Hinduism. Bhakti (devotional) people can better answer that question

 

[Unveiled Artist]

i believe the still small voice to be the same for everyone, or universal consciousness. the ego would be different for every god attempting to be superior

I know there is a nudge as in if when you go out the house, something says to take your phone, you dont take it and your husband calls to say both of your son was hit by a car, you may think "I heard a voice tell me to take my phone. I shoukd have listened to it."

I dont know what that is; but, it happens me all the time. Some say its gods voice others a hunch. Since its so distinct, they say its mostly god.

If that is the still voice advising and protecting you, what is the nature of this voice seperate from the events and thoughts surrounding the situation you are hypothetically in?

 

[stvdv]

So if we turned on a voice recorder we could record a voice?

Would be a bad voice recorder if it would not reccord a voice

 

[stvdv]

What is our spiritual self and that talks witbout the mind that reflects god speaking? (Like our spirituality speaking through our thoughts not seperate from it)?
What is spiritual thoughts apart from the mind?

How do you define voice and its literal function?

Mind is a bundle of thoughts

If someone talks to you. Before the talking there were no thoughts in your mind about what the person said.
After the person talks to you, your ears hear it and then it becomes a thought in your mind.

The same with "inner voice".

If someone tells you something, almost immeditately your intellect starts to process the things you hear.
Judgements easily mix up the message received. That's why so many people mis-communicate.

So innervoice also easily gets mixed with thoughts already in your memory.
To receive the inner message clear, you must be very alert [that why I said "before the mind pops in"]

What is spiritual thoughts apart from the mind?
Innervoice was not a thought in your mind before you heard the voice
The moment you hear the voice it becomes an new "inner" thought added to your mind
If you are alert you remember exactly this "inner" thought. The less alert you are the more the "inner" thought gets mixed with random chatter.

That's why I don't believe blind what "messengers of God" said, because out of my own experience I know "innervoices" can also easily get melted with other thoughts. For the message to be pure, the "messenger" must be pure [less thoughts] and alert.

 

[Hawkins]

How do the gods interact with you and in what matter do you express it and how?

God interacts with a constrain. Humans are virtually bound to a covenant which demands humans to be saved by faith. Thus God's constrain in interacting with humans is not to destroy faith but to establish faith. That's why you won't get hard evidence of His deeds.

However sometimes He can remove this constrain to reveal Himself to the next level. You may not get hard evidence in the end, however can get to known Him much more obviously.

Acts 14:3 (NIV2011)
So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to perform signs and wonders.

This is the next level of interaction. It's more of a prophetic confirmation. However only a chosen witness can be with this level of interaction.

The trick (or protocol) here is that humans don't have the capability to know a future event. If I give you a message and tell you a future event closely related to this message, and when this future event comes to pass just as told, then you know that God has given you the message. That's basically the way (or protocol) how God's prophets can communicate more unambiguously. Through the repeating of this same protocol, a prophet can assured of who has talked to him.

Now try to throw a dice, your next roll is a 3, the next roll followed is 4, then 5 then 1 then 3 then 5 then 6 then 1.

I repeat this same prediction all the times and it always comes to pass, then you shall know that I am no human.

That's analogue to the protocol I mentioned above, as supported by the Act 14:3 quoted above..

 

[Jainarayan]

How do you guys express the gods interaction and from what sources (experience? Whatever) does it come and why do you express it as though god actually speaks and interacts and "gives" compassion?

The "Vishnu thing" might have been me. He and I are quite chatty (see what I did there?).

Anyway... if I'm turning something over and over in my mind when/if the answer or inspiration comes, my mind tends to turn to God leading me to believe that little prod or poke of inspiration or answer came from above... over there... or wherever he is. I don't usually "hear" a voice from him. It's usually a mental or transcendental thing. Nor do I usually hear directly from one of the other deities, usually they just send what I need. Mother Lakshmi and Lord Ganesha are notorious for having bailed me out of some really tough spots, sending help when I least expected it and almost despaired. Jani-on-the-spot (see what I did there too?) you could say.

 

[Phantasman]

30 years ago, starting spiritual quest, I decided "I don't want to hear voices or have visions". But it just happened anyway. I had big physical problems. Doctors could not help me. "God" told me which test to perform in hospital to know my problem, and gave diet-advice because of kidney problems. So in my case the voice was needed to give me information nobody was able to give me.

Even a good voice can come from the deceiver. The "devil" is not an opposer of what is good, but requires men to see him as good over the Father.

Saving the flesh is not a gospel teaching. Saving the soul through spirit is.

As long as the Father is glorified, voices or visions can reveal his love. Especially when we are bearing our cross (pain, fear, death). But as many heard twice in the gospel "this is my son", it was the Holy Spirit (Mother) of Christ since Jesus said we have never heard the Fathers voice.

In my view, the Comforter (Holy Spirit) may have given you just that. The comfort you required.

In this way, the Spirit (truth) glorifies the Father (truth in spirit).

 

[Jainarayan]

Even a good voice can come from the deceiver. The "devil" is not an opposer of what is good, but requires men to see him as good over the Father.

So then maybe he made it to the publisher with the gospels before God did? Maybe they're really the devil's work? Do we really know otherwise?