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God versus Country

Religious people: Do you prioritize religious beliefs or secular political principles?

  • My religious beliefs

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • Secular political principles

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
    12

Nimos

Well-Known Member
So this is why I think we see a lack of secularism now. I think it is obvious. At least within the context of Christianity in American politics, Christians don't want a secular nation; they want a Christian nation.
Secularism doesn't seek to destroy religion, it simply thinks that politics and religions (not one, but all religions) should be kept separated. Political issues are dealt with through sensible politics and not religious ideas. That education is taught based on facts and isn't based on religious beliefs.

If we let religious belief be the ruling factor, it would be like in some states in the US, where they try to teach creation nonsense and get rid of evolution. The world would return to the dark ages if the wrong religious people had their way.

So even if you are a religious person, seeing the benefits of not letting religion dictate these things ought to make sense.

The term “Secular” refers to being “separate” from religion or having no religious base. Secularism term means separation of religion from political, economic, social and cultural aspects of life. Thus religion is only a purely personal matter. It provides full freedom to all religions and tolerance of all religions.

It's funny how religious people always seem to talk about how loving their religion is and how much they value free will etc. Yet, the only group that seems to even remotely favour these things are the freaking secular people :D
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
My answer to all your questions is YES. There's a difference between being kind and being a doormat. You can deny many wrongs against yourself and others without using cruelty or nefarious means.
Sometimes being kind is simply not saying anything, especially if doing so would antagonize and escalate the situation. I have sent quite a few shoplifters to jail with firm and definitive kindness. If I had not, I perhaps would have needed a bodyguard. [Wink]
I generally agree with you. Most of the time, being kind is the way to go.

The only exception is when being harsh is the kindest thing to do! (But, then, is it still being kind?)

Perhaps its all about the spirit in which it's done...
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I generally agree with you. Most of the time, being kind is the way to go.

The only exception is when being harsh is the kindest thing to do! (But, then, is it still being kind?)

Perhaps its all about the spirit in which it's done...
Yes, I believe in doing the right thing in the right spirit. It's easy to cross over into disrespect when you can be harsh and remain respectful according to the circumstances. I think that is what many poorly trained police officers fall into. They forget the suspect or perpetrator is still a human being. I was fortunate to be mentored to the neighborhoods of my store assignments by very well trsined and experienced officers. It can be very dangerous "on the streets." If you're going the route of blantly harsh, you'd best put your lipstick on like The Joker and play the part full kilt. LOL
 
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