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God's proof of God

ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
questfortruth said:
Be my friend, please forgive my sin against you. I was not aware of such strict rules. Is it a public forum? I have quoted from threads, not personal messages. But I am sorry.
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Don't know about rules but it is surely only polite to ask.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
questfortruth said:
QuestForTruth:
Jesus Christ was the smartest man on Earth but got murdered by
the government because of His faith and poverty (it is much
harder to kill a rich man). Therefore, it might be that man is
the smartest man ever walked on Earth, but the only mother
loves him.
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The form of execution said to be that Jesus suffered was strictly reserved for traitors to rome. So it is my belief that much is missing from the bible that would account for such a method of execution.

I can name a couple of traitorous acts against the pax Romana. First, preaching one god goes againt Rome's acceptance of all gods. Second, also preaching one god was an insult to the emperor who was a god himself.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
questfortruth said:
QuestForTruth:
This is the logical AND practical proof of God made by God Himself:
"Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say,
'Get up and walk'? But I want you to know that the Son of Man has
authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed
man, “Get up, take your mat and go home." Matthew 9:5-6.

Atheist: "There is no God because there is no [globally accepted]
proof of God."

QuestForTruth:
Why nobody in the right mind says: "The Riemann hypothesis is false
because it is unproven"? Think how unlikely atheism is! There are
over a million gods in the world. Therefore, the odds that they
are all invented is p^(1 000 000), where p is the probability of
inventing a god. Which is easier: to say, 'God exists,' or to say,
'I proved the Riemann Hypothesis? But to let you know that God
exists, here is the proof of the Riemann Hypothesis:
Acceptable Facts Point to Validity of Riemann Hypothesis, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2107.0137
There are millions of gods in the world.
Thus, at least two of them are there.
God and satan.
It is hard to prove god because there are two of them.
One is Existent, and one non-existent.
Therefore, the people can not come to a definite answer.
God tells: I am,
satan tells: I am not.

Atheist: "If Cornell has arXiv.org, then there is no need for
viXra.org. I would consider what is not accepted by Cornell as
rubbish."

QuestForTruth:
The viXra is not a magazine, but a trash heap?! But I have
submitted there my proof, and you have no proof of your own. So,
I have better chances to collect the Millennium Prize.

Christine: "I bet the reputable scientific journals are falling
over themselves in their rush not to publish this."

QuestForTruth:
But why, dear friend? Why so much injustice in those journals!
I have written a truth.

Christine: "They are science journals, NOT pseudoscience journals.
Mention of unprovable concepts is a red rag to a bull."

QuestForTruth:
It is the old song: "there is no God because nobody has proven
God." However, I have.

Christine: "No you haven't, maybe you think you have but if
you had genuine proof you would be famous, you would be on the
speed dial and every religious leader. But you are not."

QuestForTruth:
Jesus Christ was the smartest man on Earth but got murdered by
the government because of His faith and poverty (it is much
harder to kill a rich man). Therefore, it might be that man is
the smartest man ever walked on Earth, but the only mother
loves him.

Atheist: "It really isn't about proof. There is simply no reason at all (that I've seen) to take any of the thousands of gods, that people have and do believe in, at all seriously."

QuestForTruth:
If people in the village tell you, that there are millions of criminals in the forest nearby, then you should expect at least one of them there.

Atheist: There is good evidence that criminals exist.

QuestForTruth:
There must always be God of the Gaps. It is His Holy Name. One of the names.

Atheist: The Incredible Shrinking One....?

QuestForTruth:
The area of gaps varies: it has increased many times after the discovery of Dark Matter.
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God do not need to prove Gods own experience
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
ChristineM said:
The form of execution said to be that Jesus suffered was strictly reserved for traitors to rome. So it is my belief that much is missing from the bible that would account for such a method of execution.

I can name a couple of traitorous acts against the pax Romana. First, preaching one god goes againt Rome's acceptance of all gods. Second, also preaching one god was an insult to the emperor who was a god himself.
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Such a logical woman. Hence, I need faith, trust in my Church. The scientific way of thinking is too broad: "come through a narrow gate" (Jesus)
 
F

F1fan

Veteran Member
questfortruth said:
QuestForTruth:
This is the logical AND practical proof of God made by God Himself:
"Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say,
'Get up and walk'? But I want you to know that the Son of Man has
authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed
man, “Get up, take your mat and go home." Matthew 9:5-6.

Atheist: "There is no God because there is no [globally accepted]
proof of God."

QuestForTruth:
Why nobody in the right mind says: "The Riemann hypothesis is false
because it is unproven"? Think how unlikely atheism is! There are
over a million gods in the world. Therefore, the odds that they
are all invented is p^(1 000 000), where p is the probability of
inventing a god. Which is easier: to say, 'God exists,' or to say,
'I proved the Riemann Hypothesis? But to let you know that God
exists, here is the proof of the Riemann Hypothesis:
Acceptable Facts Point to Validity of Riemann Hypothesis, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2107.0137
There are millions of gods in the world.
Thus, at least two of them are there.
God and satan.
It is hard to prove god because there are two of them.
One is Existent, and one non-existent.
Therefore, the people can not come to a definite answer.
God tells: I am,
satan tells: I am not.

Atheist: "If Cornell has arXiv.org, then there is no need for
viXra.org. I would consider what is not accepted by Cornell as
rubbish."

QuestForTruth:
The viXra is not a magazine, but a trash heap?! But I have
submitted there my proof, and you have no proof of your own. So,
I have better chances to collect the Millennium Prize.

Christine: "I bet the reputable scientific journals are falling
over themselves in their rush not to publish this."

QuestForTruth:
But why, dear friend? Why so much injustice in those journals!
I have written a truth.

Christine: "They are science journals, NOT pseudoscience journals.
Mention of unprovable concepts is a red rag to a bull."

QuestForTruth:
It is the old song: "there is no God because nobody has proven
God." However, I have.

Christine: "No you haven't, maybe you think you have but if
you had genuine proof you would be famous, you would be on the
speed dial and every religious leader. But you are not."

QuestForTruth:
Jesus Christ was the smartest man on Earth but got murdered by
the government because of His faith and poverty (it is much
harder to kill a rich man). Therefore, it might be that man is
the smartest man ever walked on Earth, but the only mother
loves him.

Atheist: "It really isn't about proof. There is simply no reason at all (that I've seen) to take any of the thousands of gods, that people have and do believe in, at all seriously."

QuestForTruth:
If people in the village tell you, that there are millions of criminals in the forest nearby, then you should expect at least one of them there.

Atheist: There is good evidence that criminals exist.

QuestForTruth:
There must always be God of the Gaps. It is His Holy Name. One of the names.

Atheist: The Incredible Shrinking One....?

QuestForTruth:
The area of gaps varies: it has increased many times after the discovery of Dark Matter.
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There are many mistakes by QfT and other posters. QfT submits false claims at most of the time, like "Jesus Christ was the smartest man on earth"? We don't even know if Jesus even existed, let alone his IQ scores.

This illustrates the poor quality of arguments coming from those arguing for a God existing.
 
F

F1fan

Veteran Member
ratiocinator said:
There is good evidence that criminals exist. On the other hand, humans have a long track record of making up mythical beings and seeing agency where none actually exists.
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I suspect the imprecise language theists use has an effect on the whole use of language itself.

For example we can say criminals exist as a fact. It's not a matter of if there's some question that they exist and we look for some evidence that can lead us to a conclusion they do.

We can say there is strong evidence that OJ did it, and as a result of that overwhelming evidence he is likely guilty and a criminal. He wasn't observed, so there is some very small degree he's innocent.

But we catch criminals in the act, or are videoed, and these folks ARE criminals.
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
F1fan said:
There are many mistakes by QfT and other posters. QfT submits false claims at most of the time, like "Jesus Christ was the smartest man on earth"? We don't even know if Jesus even existed, let alone his IQ scores.
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So, there are two opinions:
1. Jesus is a genius.
2. I do not know.
 
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