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God's will
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All that happens and exists is the "will" of the gods. Syn: all is fated, reality is what it is.
No one can truly define God's will. To know God's will truly is to be God.
Phillipians 2:5,6 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider equality with God a thing to be grasped
But can we not assume it is to love one another?
1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God
Phillipians 2:5,6 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider equality with God a thing to be grasped
But can we not assume it is to love one another?
1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
God is omnipotent. Therefore, for anything to occur would be in conformity with divine will, since God would cause it not to happen if he willed it.
It was God's will to refrain from acting on whatever it was. It is more correct to view it as God's won't than God's will I think.
To be calling bad things 'God's will' is not nice imo.
In Sikhism, for example, everything is God's will, there is nothing which isn't God's will or hukam. So it isn't a question of how to know God's will, but rather recognising how everything is His will.
The problem is how to explain evil. My understanding of Sikhism is that evil is product of man's action due to following what they believe to be their own will (over and beyond God's will).
At first this may seem like a contradiction i.e. how can everything be God's will but man can cause evil from following his own will.
The answer is that whilst man thinks he has a will, he believes he is under his own will. When he recognises that it is all God's will, his actions change and he is unable to act in accordance to any will other than God's.
From an agnostic or atheists perspective this seems incredible.
In Christianity the closest I have come to an equivalent is the entering of the Holy Spirit. Man becomes aware of his will versus God's will. (I might be wrong I am studying it).
In Islam it is submission which brings man to this point of view.
In Vedanta (Hinduism) it is Self-realisation - Atman is Brahman, the recognition of Atman is the recognition that all is verily Brahman/Vishnu.
In Buddhism it isn't so much God's will, but recognition that there is no individual will, that volition arises in dependent origination.
The point is that there is a similarity running through all these religions which is that sooner or later, man will realise his 'true' place in the grand scheme of things - God's will.
The problem is how to explain evil. My understanding of Sikhism is that evil is product of man's action due to following what they believe to be their own will (over and beyond God's will).
At first this may seem like a contradiction i.e. how can everything be God's will but man can cause evil from following his own will.
The answer is that whilst man thinks he has a will, he believes he is under his own will. When he recognises that it is all God's will, his actions change and he is unable to act in accordance to any will other than God's.
From an agnostic or atheists perspective this seems incredible.
In Christianity the closest I have come to an equivalent is the entering of the Holy Spirit. Man becomes aware of his will versus God's will. (I might be wrong I am studying it).
In Islam it is submission which brings man to this point of view.
In Vedanta (Hinduism) it is Self-realisation - Atman is Brahman, the recognition of Atman is the recognition that all is verily Brahman/Vishnu.
In Buddhism it isn't so much God's will, but recognition that there is no individual will, that volition arises in dependent origination.
The point is that there is a similarity running through all these religions which is that sooner or later, man will realise his 'true' place in the grand scheme of things - God's will.
Pozessed
Todd
If you don't mind I'd like to give you my interpretation of Gods will and what it means to me.
Gods Will: Anything God wishes to allow inside our universe in order to serve his purpose.
Gods Knowledge: Gods understanding of every choice that was possible in the creation of the universe and his ability to anticipate the outcome of these choices before he even allows them to happen.
As far as I'm concerned we are supposed to understand Gods knowledge in order to obey his will.
To assume mans knowledge of sin wasn't purposefully created by God, is to assume God didn't want us to understand an obvious concept in his teachings.
Gods Will: Anything God wishes to allow inside our universe in order to serve his purpose.
Gods Knowledge: Gods understanding of every choice that was possible in the creation of the universe and his ability to anticipate the outcome of these choices before he even allows them to happen.
As far as I'm concerned we are supposed to understand Gods knowledge in order to obey his will.
To assume mans knowledge of sin wasn't purposefully created by God, is to assume God didn't want us to understand an obvious concept in his teachings.
My answer (in it's simplest form) is that it's all His will, ultimately. I believe God is omnipotent as well as omniscient, so ultimately everything that happens can be traced back to His will sooner or later. In other words, He doesn't look at anything that transpires and says "Wow ... didn't see that comin'!"
Pozessed
Todd
God's will is best defined as Fate.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
I believe that evil, like good, are simply judgement calls made by man, not God. I believe this is illustrated in Isaiah 45:7 when God states that he creates everything, including evil. And like you I feel everything is God's will. The only choice we have is how we respond to our lives.
I believe we can only learn what God's will is, if he reveals it to us. And I believe that he has, through the Bible. The Bible reveals God's purpose to reconcile obedient ones to himself. Ephesians 1:8-10 explains: "This he [God] caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and good sense, in that he made known to us the sacred secred of his will. It is according to his good pleasure which he purposed in himself for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, namely, to gather all things together again in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth."
God sent his son to lay the legal basis for us to be reconciled to God, and to fully accomplish God's will. (Hebrews 10:5-10) Thus, as 1 Timothy 2:3,4 assures "This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge truth."
Oak of Justice
Member
The will of the Lord is defined in the word of the Lord for those who truly seek the Lord with all their hearts.
Seek the Lord with all your heart and you will find the wisdom of God and see the glory of the Lord.
"Offer to God praise as a sacrifice and fulfill your vows to the Most High, then call upon me in your time of distress and I shall rescue you and you shall glorify me", says the Lord
Seek the Lord with all your heart and you will find the wisdom of God and see the glory of the Lord.
"Offer to God praise as a sacrifice and fulfill your vows to the Most High, then call upon me in your time of distress and I shall rescue you and you shall glorify me", says the Lord
It's ok, I have it right here.
Ahem...
I, God, being of sound mind and body do hereby bequeath the following.
To those meek little guys I leave the earth...
(I will read the rest latter)
Ahem...
I, God, being of sound mind and body do hereby bequeath the following.
To those meek little guys I leave the earth...
(I will read the rest latter)
ibrahimqais90
Member
everything in the existence is in the one Almighty God's will and only God knows what is the wisdom of everything in this world...we could know some but God knows all