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Going past first base

Acim

Revelation all the time
Lately I'm not all that sexual, but when I was, there was something that I used to wonder about and recently did again.

How do two people who are possibly attracted to each other decide, really, to go further with sexual exploration? I get that talking about it is the obvious answer. I actually used to do that often, but at times I found it could 'kill the mood.' Not always, and regardless of 'killing the mood' I think it is generally wise to talk first than assume. Can even be erotic just to explore it in conversation before action.

But I'm thinking if two people lean into kiss each other, that is likely welcomed on both ends. Everything after that, which may occur between two consenting adults in an evening, are what I wonder about as being truly consensual. Such that if two people (let's say I'm one of them) kiss each other and during that action, I place my hands anywhere on the other person, is that "truly welcomed" or am I just being bold, caught up in the moment?

Lots of little scenarios along same lines as above inquiry, but I'm curious what others have to say as to what makes such actions, in your mind, as 'perfectly okay?'

Also wondering how far others might go when 'moving things along?' Hmm, not terribly interested in the end points (i.e. feeling a person up under their shirt) but in making the determination in spur of the moment that this will surely be okay.

I think this side of the forum tends to attract us (sexual) people who have explored sexuality a bit more than others. I dunno how accurate that is, but I'm stating that because in my mind sometimes during a kiss were thoughts that would not be rated PG-13 or under. And sometimes, I'd find myself in the situation where that same day (or night), I'd be engaging in what I anticipated could happen. Sometimes, not always, it was a very brief discussing (thus verbal invitation) as to how we got there. Other times, no discussion and just two people exploring the depths of each other's sexual liberation.

So, for me, sexuality routinely comes off as experimenting, but far more so when it is with someone new or early in a relationship. The more I knew someone and their boundaries (or they understood mine), the more it became a routine to satisfy urges and hopefully build strong intimacy.

That experimenting still fascinates me, even while I'm not all that sexually active. The bold advances that I, and I assume countless others, make is essentially what I'm inquiring about. Thinking about it, rather than being in the moment, routinely makes me think there is a fine line between 'perfectly okay' and 'completely unacceptable.'
 

Palehorse

Active Member
Thinking about it involves the mind, being in the moment involves the heart. Getting to first base has to start at homeplate. I usually bunt. But hope for a walk.

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And ALWAYS run the bases clockwise!
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Thinking about it involves the mind, being in the moment involves the heart. Getting to first base has to start at homeplate. I usually bunt. But hope for a walk.

th


And ALWAYS run the bases clockwise!


You may get hit by a pitch if you're not careful.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
And here I thought I might get some direct answers.

Bunting to me is analogous to, "here, let me open that door for you."
 

Palehorse

Active Member
And here I thought I might get some direct answers.

Bunting to me is analogous to, "here, let me open that door for you."

When bunting, the catcher usually has to throw you out. The catcher is the only one behind you.

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Acim

Revelation all the time
When bunting, the catcher usually has to throw you out. The catcher is the only one behind you.

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I'm starting to think you barely understand baseball.

Here's hoping you can connect to the primary point up for discussion.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Such that if two people (let's say I'm one of them) kiss each other and during that action, I place my hands anywhere on the other person, is that "truly welcomed" or am I just being bold, caught up in the moment?

The reaction you get to increased physical contact should tell you a lot.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Agreed, but am wondering what the decision process is like to escalate physical contact?
I really, really, really think you're overthinking this...:confused:o_O:p
If your partner EVER says NO or STOP, or pulls away from you, or pushes you away, then it's no, and you stop. You may then resume discussing until you've clarified what's allowed and what isn't.
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
This really isn't that complicated. Test the waters slowly, or simply ask.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
I really, really, really think you're overthinking this...:confused:o_O:p
If your partner EVER says NO or STOP, or pulls away from you, or pushes you away, then it's no, and you stop. You may then resume discussing until you've clarified what's allowed and what isn't.

Good advice.

Call me an old fuddy-duddy but I strongly believe that premarital sex is never a good thing. But I am well aware that most folks don't agree with me.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
This really isn't that complicated. Test the waters slowly, or simply ask.

This is good advice. You could ask her, "Who's your favorite ball team?". Then what ever her answer is you could ask, "Wanna jump my bones?". That ought to give you a definite feel for the game.
 

Palehorse

Active Member
I'm starting to think you barely understand baseball.

Here's hoping you can connect to the primary point up for discussion.


Sorry, I am confused. Did you get to first base in baseball or wiffle ball? Both hearts have to be in the game to beat as one.

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Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
I place my hands anywhere on the other person, is that "truly welcomed" or am I just being bold, caught up in the moment?

She'll give you cues if your advances are welcome. I always took the path of going slow, paying attention to physical cues, and stopping when I felt she wasn't comfortable.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
The best bet is to just let it come naturally. If you have to force the issue the girl isn't worth the pursuit.

I really, really, really think you're overthinking this...:confused:o_O:p
If your partner EVER says NO or STOP, or pulls away from you, or pushes you away, then it's no, and you stop. You may then resume discussing until you've clarified what's allowed and what isn't.

This really isn't that complicated. Test the waters slowly, or simply ask.

I'll admit to overthinking this, but is me questioning the decision process that essentially overcomes explicit consent.

As one who's gone beyond first base (more than once, with more than one person), I feel I get how it happens. It's clearly closer to art than science.

I don't believe I've ever had partner say 'no' or 'stop.' So, making this about me as if I'm somehow unique and don't get what I'm asking about is side tracking.

Saying 'no' is explicit and thus doesn't take too much thought to realize how one might wish to proceed at that point (obvious - stop what you're doing). What I'm getting at is implicit consent which is, in essence, assumed consent. Again, in my experience, all times where I assumed consent (was implied), it always worked out. Suddenly, I'm realizing perhaps that's what people mean by 'getting lucky' (LOL).

I'm still not clear on how we assume this to be perfectly okay, but alas perhaps there is no answer and it is an art and you either get lucky or you get reprimanded. Fortunately, I've never been reprimanded (yet).
 
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