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Going past first base

Palehorse

Active Member
I hit plenty of home runs...But inside the park home runs are the best...I use this bat.

th

Angels love me.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Paradise by the dashboard light. So on the mark. *grin*


Paradise by the Dashboard Light- Meatloaf Lyrics:
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
I'll admit to overthinking this, but is me questioning the decision process that essentially overcomes explicit consent.

As one who's gone beyond first base (more than once, with more than one person), I feel I get how it happens. It's clearly closer to art than science.

I don't believe I've ever had partner say 'no' or 'stop.' So, making this about me as if I'm somehow unique and don't get what I'm asking about is side tracking.

Saying 'no' is explicit and thus doesn't take too much thought to realize how one might wish to proceed at that point (obvious - stop what you're doing). What I'm getting at is implicit consent which is, in essence, assumed consent. Again, in my experience, all times where I assumed consent (was implied), it always worked out. Suddenly, I'm realizing perhaps that's what people mean by 'getting lucky' (LOL).

I'm still not clear on how we assume this to be perfectly okay, but alas perhaps there is no answer and it is an art and you either get lucky or you get reprimanded. Fortunately, I've never been reprimanded (yet).

Well, really it isn't okay. Fornication nearly always ends with someone and sometimes both people not getting what they wanted when they decided to go all the way. Without the love, trust and romantic bond of holy matrimony sex is just sex similar to what apes and dogs do.

What pleases an animal will always come up short in your heart.
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
What pleases an animal will always come up short in your heart.
While I largely agree with this particular statement (when it comes to sex), there can be exceptions.

My first girlfriend was super hot, and we had a tight emotional bond. We talked a lot, did a whole lot of kissy-face, and fooled around a bit. There was no sex, though. We might have eventually, but she lived too far away and so things fizzled out because of that.

The next girlfriend wanted to have sex right away. She looked pretty damn good too, so it was hard to resist. However there was no relationship whatsoever, and I dumped her pretty quickly despite getting laid.

As an adult I had a purely physical relationship with a co-worker, but we became great friends and were together for years. In this case, sex was an ice-breaker that led to a much deeper and lasting friendship.

I think its easier for adults to find alternative ways to fulfill their emotional needs, and not expect so much from casual sex. When the expectations are kept reasonable, it can be a fun recreation.

However sex in itself is mostly a physical act and any emotional benefit is likely to be temporary, although as mentioned it can lead to more. Just don't expect it to.
 
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First Baseman

Retired athlete
While I largely agree with this particular statement (when it comes to sex), there can be exceptions.

Well, of course you do, you're a Satanist. To you there are always exceptions to obeying God's word. No surprise at all there.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
So far the responses are about 20% close to what I was aiming for in this thread.

In case it hasn't been clear, the thread is aiming for understanding how consent works in relation to 'bold advances' which strike me as 'normal' and 'perfectly okay' when 'two hearts beat as one.' As around 50% of the population is mistaken about their choice in long term partners, and as consent is generally a really huge deal, I was looking to grasp the mindset that seems to believe going to 2nd base is always / most of the time going to be 'perfectly okay' if I'm bold/assertive rather than wishy washy, talking it all out.
 

Palehorse

Active Member
So far the responses are about 20% close to what I was aiming for in this thread.

In case it hasn't been clear, the thread is aiming for understanding how consent works in relation to 'bold advances' which strike me as 'normal' and 'perfectly okay' when 'two hearts beat as one.' As around 50% of the population is mistaken about their choice in long term partners, and as consent is generally a really huge deal, I was looking to grasp the mindset that seems to believe going to 2nd base is always / most of the time going to be 'perfectly okay' if I'm bold/assertive rather than wishy washy, talking it all out.

Just remember untill you touch 2nd base you never get to first base, because first base covers the area between 1st and 2nd.

merkle.jpg
The historic ball was originally discovered by the great nephew of Cubs’ Hall of Famer Johnny Evers, the fiesty second baseman who was directly involved in the play that generated shockwaves in a baseball-mad country over 101 years ago.

Certainly considered among the ‘holy grails’ of sports memorabilia, the Merkle ball has been in the hands of private collectors since a 1993 auction where it sold for $30,250. The original buyer was actor Charlie Sheen who sold it to another collector in 1999. That east coast baseball fan has now decided to part with the ball, and will likely see a substantial increase in his investment.

The Giants and Cubs were locked in a heated battle for first place on September 23, 1908 when they met at the Polo Grounds. Tied at 1-1 in the ninth inning, the drama unfolded in an unusual way.

The 19 year-old Merkle, getting his first big league start, had singled, moving teammate Moose McCormick to third base. With two outs, Al Bridwell singled to center and McCormick trotted home with what would have been the winning run.

However, instead of touching second as required by rule, Merkle ran by the bag and into the clubhouse as a mob of jubilant and often dangerous fans swarmed the field. Cubs’ second baseman Johnny Evers saw that Merkle hadn’t touched the base. Amid the chaos, Evers somehow got the ball back (just how isn’t clear, although several accounts indicate Giants’ pitcher Joe McGinnity had tossed it away, knowing Merkle had committed a potentially costly mistake).

Evers had corraled umpire Hank O’Day who called Merkle out on a force play and the winning run was nullified. The mob scene that had ensued made it impossible to continue the game and it was ruled a tie. However, the two teams would finish even atop the National League standings at the end of the regular season. A one-game post-season playoff ordered by NL president Harry Pulliam was won by the Cubs who then beat the Detroit Tigers in the World Series to claim the title. They haven’t won a World Series since.

Just goes to show...you can score but never make it back home...Cubs curse will be broken!
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
In case it hasn't been clear, the thread is aiming for understanding how consent works in relation to 'bold advances' which strike me as 'normal' and 'perfectly okay' when 'two hearts beat as one.' As around 50% of the population is mistaken about their choice in long term partners, and as consent is generally a really huge deal, I was looking to grasp the mindset that seems to believe going to 2nd base is always / most of the time going to be 'perfectly okay' if I'm bold/assertive rather than wishy washy, talking it all out.

People respond differently, so you will always have to be sensitive to what is happening in the present moment.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
When dating, I let the women set how far we may go, although there were a couple of times when I said no. I would not take advantage of a woman is she seemed sorta desperate, for example.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Pretty soon (fingers crossed) we'll get to a post that gets at what OP was aiming for.
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
Pretty soon (fingers crossed) we'll get to a post that gets at what OP was aiming for.
I'm not clear on what you expect for an answer. We live in a random world, and many outcomes are possible regardless of our actions. Sometimes we try and succeed, sometimes we try and fail. But if you never roll the dice there is no chance of winning, right?
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
I'm not clear on what you expect for an answer. We live in a random world, and many outcomes are possible regardless of our actions. Sometimes we try and succeed, sometimes we try and fail. But if you never roll the dice there is no chance of winning, right?

I expect a person responding to explain from their experience how they overcome 'need for consent' when making an advancement in a sexual activity. I'd prefer to stay with basic relations rather than assume two people are fornicating. So, as noted in OP, just assume I'm speaking of seconds after people have engaged in a kiss and before clothes have been removed.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
That sounds weird...Your problem might be a mild type of schizophrenzia...I use to have it...


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This might sound weird, but every post you've made so far in this thread strikes me as trolling or addressing the person rather than the ideas up for discussion.
 
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