Good News

[hexler]

The word Gospel means "Good News". When Christians talk about that some of them believe these good news mean, that Jesus died for us on the cross. I have a different view on this subject.
Take f.e. that Jesus forbid divorce. Why did He do this? The reason was, that jewish husbands divorced from their wives, and these divorced wives became homeless, and usually they couldn't survive, they died. If Jesus would not forbid divorce His followers would do the same thing, in other words Jesus protected women from being outcasts.
Also for other people there were good news. Take f.e. the slaves. They found themselves accepted as equal to all men. It was also good news for all citizens of the Roman Empire, because they were relieved from worshipping the Cesar as god. But what does this mean for us today? We do not have those problems! Our problems are different. Ok, we have homeless people, we have slavery, but because of world wide commercial reasons. And also, there is no Cesar.
This world is different from the small mediterranean world of the ancient christian world. This world has become a village. What we need today is a common believe for all mankind. That is why I believe all these old religions are out of date. None of the big worldreligions can meet our needs.

 

[Revoltingest]

Greetings!

And for your viewing pleasure....
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Good News Everyone! - YouTube

 

[Riverwolf]

This world has become a village.

I don't know what world you're talking about; the one I live in is as far from a village as it gets.

None of the big worldreligions can meet our needs.

The Old Way meets my needs just fine, thank you.

 

[hexler]

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[Iti oj]

I don't know what world you're talking about; the one I live in is as far from a village as it gets.



The Old Way meets my needs just fine, thank you.

but your needs are not societies needs and the op was clear that he was.
and i disagree i see us as a village too. a divided village but one none the less.

 

[Riverwolf]

but your needs are not societies needs and the op was clear that he was.

Society's needs will vary from society to society.

and i disagree i see us as a village too. a divided village but one none the less.

A village is a tight-nit community of typically like-minded people. I don't see that in the world at all. It's not even in America, let alone the rest of the world.

 

[hexler]

I don't know what world you're talking about; the one I live in is as far from a village as it gets.



The Old Way meets my needs just fine, thank you.

You seem to be nostalgic. Do you drive Ford Model T ?? I am sure you like a smooth driving on the highway. But if you are nostalgic you should like more a roman street like Via Appia. This was normal 2000 years ago.

 

[Riverwolf]

You seem to be nostalgic. Do you drive Ford Model T ?? I am sure you like a smooth driving on the highway. But if you are nostalgic you should like more a roman street like Via Appia. This was normal 2000 years ago.

Actually, I don't drive at all. Everything I need is well within walking distance.

And I consider pre-Christian Rome an enemy.

I follow the Old Way, but not so extreme that I wish to live in a 100% recreation of some random village from one of my ancestries, or practice every single one of the customs of such a village (99% of which are almost certainly lost to time, anyway).

After all, the Old Way varied from place to place, and from time to time.

Now, if this is just cultural nostalgia, is that a problem? After all, I don't seek to force others to do likewise. To each their own.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

A village is a tight-nit community of typically like-minded people. I don't see that in the world at all. It's not even in America, let alone the rest of the world.

My block isn't even like that. That guy must be dreaming.

 

[hexler]

Society's needs will vary from society to society.

A village is a tight-nit community of typically like-minded people. I don't see that in the world at all. It's not even in America, let alone the rest of the world.

The reason, why "the world is a village" is true is that: We are connected by the media, we can communicate around the world. If there is a catastrophy in one continent, people around the world feel concerned, as if it would be in their neighbourhood.
Think global - act local!

 

[McBell]

The reason, why "the world is a village" is true is that: We are connected by the media, we can communicate around the world. If there is a catastrophy in one continent, people around the world feel concerned, as if it would be in their neighbourhood.
Think global - act local!

Then you should most likely have specified "global village" instead of just saying "village"
Especially seeing as they have two distinctly different meanings.

 

[Riverwolf]

The reason, why "the world is a village" is true is that: We are connected by the media, we can communicate around the world. If there is a catastrophy in one continent, people around the world feel concerned, as if it would be in their neighbourhood.
Think global - act local!

There's more to a village than being concerned for other people.

Besides, the media doesn't reach the entire world, either because local governments are deliberately censoring it, or because it simply doesn't exist.

In any case, in a village, everyone actually knows everyone. That doesn't even begin to exist even philosophically in the world.

 

[Riverwolf]

Then you should most likely have specified "global village" instead of just saying "village"
Especially seeing as they have two distinctly different meanings.

A small bit of research reveals that the "global village" shouldn't be equated to actual villages, either now or in the past. Seems like the guy who coined the term eventually started using "global theater", which might be more accurate.

 

[Ingledsva]

The word Gospel means "Good News". When Christians talk about that some of them believe these good news mean, that Jesus died for us on the cross. I have a different view on this subject.
Take f.e. that Jesus forbid divorce. Why did He do this? The reason was, that jewish husbands divorced from their wives, and these divorced wives became homeless, and usually they couldn't survive, they died. If Jesus would not forbid divorce His followers would do the same thing, in other words Jesus protected women from being outcasts.
Also for other people there were good news. Take f.e. the slaves. They found themselves accepted as equal to all men. It was also good news for all citizens of the Roman Empire, because they were relieved from worshipping the Cesar as god. But what does this mean for us today? We do not have those problems! Our problems are different. Ok, we have homeless people, we have slavery, but because of world wide commercial reasons. And also, there is no Cesar.
This world is different from the small mediterranean world of the ancient christian world. This world has become a village. What we need today is a common believe for all mankind. That is why I believe all these old religions are out of date. None of the big worldreligions can meet our needs.

Jesus allowed divorce in certain situations,

And slaves were still enslaved.


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[s2a]

The word Gospel means "Good News". When Christians talk about that some of them believe these good news mean, that Jesus died for us on the cross. I have a different view on this subject.
Take f.e. that Jesus forbid divorce. Why did He do this? The reason was, that jewish husbands divorced from their wives, and these divorced wives became homeless, and usually they couldn't survive, they died. If Jesus would not forbid divorce His followers would do the same thing, in other words Jesus protected women from being outcasts.
Also for other people there were good news. Take f.e. the slaves. They found themselves accepted as equal to all men. It was also good news for all citizens of the Roman Empire, because they were relieved from worshipping the Cesar as god. But what does this mean for us today? We do not have those problems! Our problems are different. Ok, we have homeless people, we have slavery, but because of world wide commercial reasons. And also, there is no Cesar.
This world is different from the small mediterranean world of the ancient christian world. This world has become a village. What we need today is a common believe for all mankind. That is why I believe all these old religions are out of date. None of the big worldreligions can meet our needs.

I do not wish to seem especially rude, but when you say "What we need today is a common believe for all mankind", I'm more than inclined to agree... but I remain of the opinion that ANY adherents of religion/mysticism/superstition/transmogrification... are more a part of the immediate problem than any hopeful solution...

I've asked Santa,and even he says "No"....

..."you made the problem, you fix it".... "I just deliver presents to every kid on the planet in 24 hours...you figure it out".

 

[hexler]

I do not wish to seem especially rude, but when you say "What we need today is a common believe for all mankind", I'm more than inclined to agree... but I remain of the opinion that ANY adherents of religion/mysticism/superstition/transmogrification... are more a part of the immediate problem than any hopeful solution...

I've asked Santa,and even he says "No"....

..."you made the problem, you fix it".... "I just deliver presents to every kid on the planet in 24 hours...you figure it out".

It is normal that "you remain of the opinion...". It is because all religions of the past have reached the condition of decadence. Everybody is frustrated about the Moslems and what they do today. Shouldn't we clean our own house? It is about 1400 years past Mohammed. What was going on in the Christian world 1400 AD ? The same rumour or even worse. Why does this happen ? It is because most people are superficial. They hear about the "Good News" and believe "ah, now everything becomes better" and expect the change in the outside world. But to reach this new world which the Messenger of God told the believers have to do something to make it real. But many did not. So, they were waiting and waiting that someone or something would do a magic and change this life. What happened ? Their believe in their Religion became cooler and cooler. They said they are believers, but it was hypocrisy.
What can help ? Search for truth. Certainly there is a wisdom behind all these tribulations. Find out.

 

[1137]

We need something more open minded, rational, and humanistic. A religion (if you must call it such) of gods that live only in the mind and a sense of unity in setting them free.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

We need something more open minded, rational, and humanistic. A religion (if you must call it such) of gods that live only in the mind and a sense of unity in setting them free.

My beliefs are pretty close to that, except for the part of about the Gods only existing in the mind. Many of the older pre-Christian religions encouraged the cultivation of higher virtues.

 

[hexler]

We need something more open minded, rational, and humanistic. A religion (if you must call it such) of gods that live only in the mind and a sense of unity in setting them free.

I think it is a question of patience. This mankind is young. We have been like embryos when we lived in the water. We were children, now we are in puberty, not yet mature, but on the verge of matureness. This is a scientific view. One human being runs through all the developments mankind had to go. Did you know, that in a certain stage of the development of an embryo this being has leftovers from the shark?

 

[Riverwolf]

I think it is a question of patience. This mankind is young. We have been like embryos when we lived in the water. We were children, now we are in puberty, not yet mature, but on the verge of matureness. This is a scientific view.

No, it isn't. Evolution has no direction; it's purely reactive.