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Good questions even if the answers are wrong?

Niatero

*banned*
I've been thinking, maybe sometimes people promoting "Baha'i beliefs" are asking good questions, even if I disagree with their answers. I don't mean questions like "How can we know it's really Jesus?" I mean, questions like "How can we stop the us vs them?" Questions about how to live our lives in ways that can help improve the world for all people everywhere. Even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.
 
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danieldemol

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Premium Member
I've been thinking, maybe sometimes people promoting "Baha'i beliefs" are asking good questions, even if I disagree with their answers. I don't mean questions like "How can we know it's really Jesus?" I mean, questions like "How can we stop the us vs them?" Questions about how to live our lives in ways that can help improve the world for all people everywhere. Even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.
I rated your post friendly however I like and agree to it as well.
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
I've been thinking, maybe sometimes people promoting "Baha'i beliefs" are asking good questions, even if I disagree with their answers. I don't mean questions like "How can we know it's really Jesus?" I mean, questions like "How can we stop the us vs them?" Questions about how to live our lives in ways that can help improve the world for all people everywhere. Even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.
I think the how questions you ask are constructive, but the answers will vary in accordance with where you are and your life situation. Very generically, I think the best answer will be " To try to be an asset and not a liability to your friends, family, neighbors and society at large." Now one clearly has different inborn talents and circumstances throughout life will vary widely, so everyone will...sometime or the other...need support from people, close kin and society during times of duress. But when circumstances are better, trying to be a support to others and being constructive in your actions and words goes a long way.
The problem I think is that, due to various capitalistic pressures for promoting a consumption driven economy, we are being bombarded with messages that one is truly worthy in society if we buy that next cadilac car or the next private jet etc. or collect that limited edition perfume, or have that youth enhancing facelift. And if you can't afford it, no worries, there is this nice loan you can get with zero background check. Society has fallen into a hedonist trap, where, instead of accumulating utility to develop long-term social assets, we are being encouraged to fritter away utility into pleasure creating consumables (which also includes facebook, twitter etc. because time is one of the most valuable utility).
 

Niatero

*banned*
I think the how questions you ask are constructive, but the answers will vary in accordance with where you are and your life situation. Very generically, I think the best answer will be " To try to be an asset and not a liability to your friends, family, neighbors and society at large." Now one clearly has different inborn talents and circumstances throughout life will vary widely, so everyone will...sometime or the other...need support from people, close kin and society during times of duress. But when circumstances are better, trying to be a support to others and being constructive in your actions and words goes a long way.
The problem I think is that, due to various capitalistic pressures for promoting a consumption driven economy, we are being bombarded with messages that one is truly worthy in society if we buy that next cadilac car or the next private jet etc. or collect that limited edition perfume, or have that youth enhancing facelift. And if you can't afford it, no worries, there is this nice loan you can get with zero background check. Society has fallen into a hedonist trap, where, instead of accumulating utility to develop long-term social assets, we are being encouraged to fritter away utility into pleasure creating consumables (which also includes facebook, twitter etc. because time is one of the most valuable utility).
I think that caring about other people is a part of human nature, not only the impulse to do it but also natural skills and capacities for it, but it's currently being widely repressed and pushed aside in various ways, including what you're saying here.
 

rocala

Well-Known Member
I've been thinking, maybe sometimes people promoting "Baha'i beliefs" are asking good questions, even if I disagree with their answers. I don't mean questions like "How can we know it's really Jesus?" I mean, questions like "How can we stop the us vs them?" Questions about how to live our lives in ways that can help improve the world for all people everywhere. Even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.
A very good point and I agree totally on the value of such questions.
For the record though, I do think Daniel's question about Jesus was also a good one.
 

chinu

chinu
I've been thinking, maybe sometimes people promoting "Baha'i beliefs" are asking good questions, even if I disagree with their answers. I don't mean questions like "How can we know it's really Jesus?" I mean, questions like "How can we stop the us vs them?" Questions about how to live our lives in ways that can help improve the world for all people everywhere. Even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.
If you disagree, is there's any other option ? :)
 

chinu

chinu
? Disagree with what? Other option for what?
You said: even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.

Is there any other option other than this ?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I've been thinking, maybe sometimes people promoting "Baha'i beliefs" are asking good questions, even if I disagree with their answers. I don't mean questions like "How can we know it's really Jesus?" I mean, questions like "How can we stop the us vs them?" Questions about how to live our lives in ways that can help improve the world for all people everywhere. Even if I disagree with the answers of the person who starts the thread, I think we can have some good conversations around the questions.
I concur, but humility will add a lot to any discussion. When it takes on a condescending tone, then it starts to fall apart. Also, if it's a repeat of a thread that fell apart, why watch it again?
 

Niatero

*banned*
I concur, but humility will add a lot to any discussion. When it takes on a condescending tone, then it starts to fall apart. Also, if it's a repeat of a thread that fell apart, why watch it again?
I'll revise what I said. Even if I disagree with the answers, and disapprove of the behavior, of the person who starts the thread, I think we can still have some good conversations around the questions.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I'll revise what I said. Even if I disagree with the answers, and disapprove of the behavior, of the person who starts the thread, I think we can still have some good conversations around the questions.
I concur, although not if it is just plain repetitive, with each person saying a different version of what they said before. That's why I tired of the Baha'i threads. After 7 or 8 years., there really is nothing new (to me).
 
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