Good Reason To Have An AR-15

[Dirty Penguin]

Since no leftie has stepped up to respond to this, let me present their arguments:
- "Statistics show" that the mother was more likely to commit suicide or shoot her own kids than defend herself.
- She's racist because the perp is black.
- She will suffer from horrible feelings of guilt at injuring a fellow traveler of the Spaceship Earth.
- Her children will be traumatized by her violence.

Or maybe it's that not that many "lefties" are logged on to respond. Or maybe it's the fact that many of us have no problem with this current case. There's really no argument "against" the article that I can see.

There might be some truth to your first assertion though because the article gives the impression she unloaded her weapon and didn't seem to realize that she did. I'm sure she unloaded on him out of fear which is perfectly understandable but it does increase the chance for personal injury/death. And I noticed that even though she unloaded all six shots the guy survived. Could mean she's a bad shot because she shot out of fear and/or that it just failed to hit any vital organs/arteries.

IMO the article makes the case for us. She used a .38 caliber revolver with less than 10 bullets to incapacitate the intruder. So no AR was needed here.

 

[Revoltingest]

Or maybe it's that not that many "lefties" are logged on to respond. Or maybe it's the fact that many of us have no problem with this current case. There's really no argument "against" the article that I can see.

Clearly, you're one of the weaker lefties, hobbled by one foot still stuck in reality.

There might be some truth to your first assertion though because the article gives the impression she unloaded her weapon and didn't seem to realize that she did. I'm sure she unloaded on him out of fear which is perfectly understandable but it does increase the chance for personal injury/death.

Oh, yes....she & her kids would've had much better odds had she
been unarmed when the gentle soul with the crow bar visited.

And I noticed that even though she unloaded all six shots the guy survived. Could mean she's a bad shot because she shot out of fear and/or that it just failed to hit any vital organs/arteries.
IMO the article makes the case for us. She used a .38 caliber revolver with less than 10 bullets to incapacitate the intruder. So no AR was needed here.

Or one could say an AR was almost needed.....&/or more training.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Oh, yes....she & her kids would've had much better odds had she
been unarmed when the gentle soul with the crow bar visited.

You're on your soapbox again. I totally agree with the woman's actions. She grabbed her gun and defended herself/her family. No one can argue against that. I never insinuated she should have been unarmed. Seeing as though I am a gun owner and purchased mine primarily for home/family safety I reject your hyperbolic statement.

Or one could say an AR was almost needed.....&/or more training.

Given she and her kids went into a crawlspace, per the article, one can say...and AR was not needed.

 

[Revoltingest]

You're on your soapbox again.

Nah....more like open mic nite at a comedy club.

I totally agree with the woman's actions. She grabbed her gun and defended herself/her family. No one can argue against that. I never insinuated she should have been unarmed. Seeing as though I am a gun owner and purchased mine primarily for home/family safety I reject your hyperbolic statement.

I wasn't being hyperbolic.....I was being snotty & sarcastic at your expense.

Given she and her kids went into a crawlspace, per the article, one can say...and AR was not needed.

Well, an AR wouldn't be my choice either.

 

[Thief]

Did I say so in this thread?....so many gun threads...

It is more likely you will die by blunt force attack than by rifle.
and the likelihood of that rifle being an ar15....4%.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Did I say so in this thread?....so many gun threads...

It is more likely you will die by blunt force attack than by rifle.
and the likelihood of that rifle being an ar15....4%.

OK.....

 

[darkendless]

You're on your soapbox again. I totally agree with the woman's actions. She grabbed her gun and defended herself/her family. No one can argue against that. I never insinuated she should have been unarmed. Seeing as though I am a gun owner and purchased mine primarily for home/family safety I reject your hyperbolic statement.



Given she and her kids went into a crawlspace, per the article, one can say...and AR was not needed.

Such a violent country.

We eradicated guns successfully in 1996. Homicides rates fell, young suicude rates fell and we haven't had a mass shooting since.

AMURICA, F*** Yeahhhh!!!!!

 

[McBell]

We eradicated guns successfully in 1996.

rotflmao

There have been six incidents of people or houses being shot in Launceston's northern suburbs over the past month.

Source

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So much for "eradicating" guns...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That's an active imagination you have there. It may help to read this.

Ignoring your absurd argument that home invasions need to be rampant to justify firearm ownership, it still happens: Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder | www.wsbtv.com

When I was in university, my girlfriend at the time and I were in a collision. She was injured by the airbag. In that particular instance, she probably wouldn't have been injured at all (except maybe bruising) if the airbag didn't deploy. Should we conclude from this that airbags make cars less safe overall?

 

[darkendless]

rotflmao

There have been six incidents of people or houses being shot in Launceston's northern suburbs over the past month.

Source

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So much for "eradicating" guns...

Poor choice of words.

We successfully implemented gun control.

Zero mass shootings since Port Arthur. How many mass shootings has America had this year?

You could too if America wasn't so full of people who think they need guns for protection.

 

[Revoltingest]

You could too if America wasn't so full of people who think they need guns for protection.

But we don't have a dingo problem.

 

[darkendless]

But we don't have a dingo problem.

A dingo ate my baby

Seriously though, kangaroos are the new problem. My better looking half hit one on Thursday evening and we live in a residential area.

 

[Apex]

When I was in university, my girlfriend at the time and I were in a collision. She was injured by the airbag. In that particular instance, she probably wouldn't have been injured at all (except maybe bruising) if the airbag didn't deploy. Should we conclude from this that airbags make cars less safe overall?

You have no control over when/if an airbag deploys beyond trying not to get into an accident, which can sometimes be impossible due to other drivers. With firearms, we have all been advocating that not just anyone or everyone should own one. They should be responsible and practice safe storage and handling. There is no true correlation with airbags.

In fact, I am seeing a pattern in your "arguments". The only context in which they would make any sense is a world where everyone was more or less forced to own a firearm. No one is making such an argument.

 

[McBell]

When I was in university, my girlfriend at the time and I were in a collision. She was injured by the airbag. In that particular instance, she probably wouldn't have been injured at all (except maybe bruising) if the airbag didn't deploy. Should we conclude from this that airbags make cars less safe overall?

Nope.
We should conclude that drivers make cars less safe overall.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You have no control over when/if an airbag deploys beyond trying not to get into an accident, which can sometimes be impossible due to other drivers. With firearms, we have all been advocating that not just anyone or everyone should own one. They should be responsible and practice safe storage and handling. There is no true correlation with airbags.

In fact, I am seeing a pattern in your "arguments". The only context in which they would make any sense is a world where everyone was more or less forced to own a firearm. No one is making such an argument.

I'm not forced to drive a car with air bags. I can buy a car that didn't come with one, or I could remove them from my car if I wanted.

But when it comes to guns, you are talking about denying choice to others: a gun creates risks for the people around it; often, these people have not freely chosen to accept those risks. In fact, in the case of concealed carry, the person with the firearm has deliberately denied information to others that they might consider important and relevant in informing their choice.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Nope.
We should conclude that drivers make cars less safe overall.

Actually, we shouldn't conclude anything. One anecdote isn't enough for us to understand the full implications of a thing, whether it's airbags or firearms.

 

[Roadrider]

I see the difference between owning a .22 single shot rifle and an AR15 the same difference between owning a Yugo and a Ferrari, if you are legally able to own either then it is only a matter of your taste and the size of your pocketbook. There are mandatory sentencing guidelines in the U.S. for those who are not legally able to own firearms and you can research them here: http://www.ussc.gov/Legal/Primers/Primer_Firearms.pdf

 

[Sirius Star]

Oh, what the hell

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[Roadrider]

A dingo ate my baby

Seriously though, kangaroos are the new problem. My better looking half hit one on Thursday evening and we live in a residential area.

Did you cut off it's tail and grill it? it seems a delicacy among the Abos

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I see the difference between owning a .22 single shot rifle and an AR15 the same difference between owning a Yugo and a Ferrari, if you are legally able to own either then it is only a matter of your taste and the size of your pocketbook. There are mandatory sentencing guidelines in the U.S. for those who are not legally able to own firearms and you can research them here: http://www.ussc.gov/Legal/Primers/Primer_Firearms.pdf

Of course:

- whether you drive a Yugo or a Ferrari, you and the car both need a licence and (in many places) you have to get the car insured and inspected regularly.

- there are some cars (e.g. a Formula Vee or a Radical) that aren't legal for the road even though they're slower than a Ferrari.