Gop position on IVF on June12th. And Gop position on IVF on June 13th.

[Kathryn]

Well of course I was not including illegal ones.

 

[Kathryn]

Because you posted that polemical article from Forbes.

And you say you left Texas because you felt restricted, that is sort of what this whole thing is about, not letting governments restrict us.

I am all for that still. I am just opposed to paying for someone else's abortions or IVF. But I also left Texas because of the intense heat, which I also mentioned. Oh and I am not from there (which I also mentioned) and also, family and friends live nearby.

 

[Left Coast]

Well of course I was not including illegal ones.

.....then you missed the entire point.....

 

[Pogo]

I am all for that still. I am just opposed to paying for someone else's abortions or IVF. But I also left Texas because of the intense heat, which I also mentioned. Oh and I am not from there (which I also mentioned) and also, family and friends live nearby.

Well IVF and abortion are not yet considered essential healthcare yet so talk to your insurance agent, you can probably still find a policy that does not include either of them, the problem may be finding one that covers the things you do want or need.
Personally if IVF is a benefit then at least as much should go top people who adopt an already extant child.

 

[We Never Know]

No, you didn't. This is fun.

Where abortion is illegal, insurers can't cover it. This is basic stuff.

I could be wrong but IMO they did answer you.

You said

Because abortion isn't illegal everywhere (yet). Where it is, insurers can't cover it.

They said

No but one can get a tax deduction or tax credit or use an HSA for the expenses, including travel expenses.

Now I took the 'no' as an agreement to you that insurance can't pay in those states where its illegal and offered other ways a person can get financial help.

But that's just my observation. Your alls table tennis is giving me a headache lol

 

[Kathryn]

Well IVF and abortion are not yet considered essential healthcare yet so talk to your insurance agent, you can probably still find a policy that does not include either of them, the problem may be finding one that covers the things you do want or need.
Personally if IVF is a benefit then at least as much should go top people who adopt an already extant child.

Oh I think I have found the least expensive one, which is an HMO for $732 a month.

 

[Kathryn]

I could be wrong but IMO they did answer you.

You said


They said


Now I took the 'no' as an agreement to you that insurance can't pay in those states where its illegal and offered other ways a person can get financial help.

But that's just my observation. Your alls table tennis is giving me a headache lol

Hey, it's giving ME a headache! LOL

 

[Left Coast]

I could be wrong but IMO they did answer you.

You said


They said


Now I took the 'no' as an agreement to you that insurance can't pay in those states where its illegal and offered other ways a person can get financial help.

But that's just my observation. Your alls table tennis is giving me a headache lol

Bottom line: Medical procedures exist that insurers are prohibited from covering. Thus members of Congress tried to pass legislation to prevent governments from prohibiting insurers from covering IVF.

That's really it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Who cares about abortion rights? I don't need one.
Who cares about religious freedom? I don't believe in their stupid myths.
Who cares about health care? I got mine.
Who cares about immigration? That's a southern problem.
Who cares about the price of food & gas? I afford them easily.

Catches on pretty quickly dosent it?

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's like a giant shell game, I swear!

Now that is enlightenment!

 

[SkepticThinker]

If its not broke, don't fix it.


Exactly is right. The dems wouldn't care if it wasn't election year. They are trying to get votes.
Nothing more nothing less IMO.

Want to impress voters like me, do something because it needs done or because its right. Do it no matter if its election year or not.

Don't do it because its election year to just to try to get votes.

Well, this happened recently, if you'll recall.

The Alabama Supreme Court’s Ruling on Frozen Embryos | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Doctors, patients, and politicians seek answers on how the February 16 decision could impact a wide array of health care issues.

publichealth.jhu.edu

Three Alabama clinics pause IVF services after court rules that embryos are children

A decision by the Alabama Supreme Court has left providers and patients unsure of whether parts of the in vitro fertilization process put them at legal risk.

www.nbcnews.com

So it is a current event, after all.

 

[metis]

Meanwhile it's even hotter in NE Texas! And I believe it's going to get even hotter by Wednesday in Ohio.

Here in the Detroit area, we are supposed to remain in the 90's until Sunday, but it's the humidity that so oppressive.

 

[Kathryn]

Here in the Detroit area, we are supposed to remain in the 90's until Sunday, but it's the humidity that so oppressive.

Very true. Pretty humid here too. 73 percent.