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GOP Wants To Strip Healthcare From Millions

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hey, OP, the Medicare system just revised the date it will be insolvent. It now says that the Medicare system will be insolvent in 2026, three years earlier than previous estimates. That’s eight years from now.
Medicare insolvency date moved up by three years to 2026

So what do you propose we do about that?
Did you notice this from your link:
President Donald Trump campaigned on a promise not to cut Social Security or Medicare, but he hasn't offered a blueprint for either program.

Democrats, meanwhile, want to extend the social safety net by spending more on health care and education. Advocates for the elderly said Tuesday there should be no cuts to Social Security benefits.

But federal deficits keep rising, and the recent Republican tax-cut bill is expected to add to the debt.

Last year's tax law, which cut taxes on Social Security benefits, helped exacerbate the shortfall. So too did repeal of the individual mandate in so-called Obamacare, which promises to increase the number of people without health insurance and therefore Medicare payments for uncompensated medical care.

Higher deficits mean less maneuvering room for policymakers when the day of reckoning finally arrives for Social Security and Medicare.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Medicaid expansion is supposed to ease the burden, at least in states which accepted Obamacare, but the current administration is cutting into that. Their attitude is well the states can take care of themselves unfortunately not all states have an economy like CA.

I just call it as I see it from personal experience. What we had was bad, the "Affordable Care Act", made it worse. Now we're back to bad. The improvement for me is that now at least I can afford to buy the not so good insurance, which BTW is much better than what I paid quadruple for under the ACA.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
More proof that republicans have no middle class policies. Republicans will go after healthcare, social security, medicare, etc. Middle class programs and policies. Why you ask? Because that tax payer money needs to be funneled to corrupt corporations in the MIC, Oil, etc.

People on social security actually vote for people who want to take it away. Insane. Propaganda is powerful. And those vulnerable to propaganda are destroying this country.

Former Fox News analyst says Fox has become 'destructive propaganda machine'
Former Fox News analyst says Fox has become 'destructive propaganda machine'

 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Right wing Republicans, perhaps influenced by libertarians, don't believe it's the government's job to care for its citizens, beyond protection from foreign invasion and enforcing contracts.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
According to one scholar, the Republicans use a metaphoric framework of the strict father family to formulate their moral decisions. This model is competitive, self-responsible and authoritarian in nature. If you need public assistance then you are lazy, irresponsible or undisciplined. The punishment you receive will be your reward and cause you to straighten-up and fly right...or not.

Its a simplistic model than implicitly, IMO, rewards the entitled and the aggressive over the cooperative and empathetic. Ironically, it sort of shoots itself in the foot since more Republican districts get government assistance if my last exposure to such data is true...
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I just call it as I see it from personal experience. What we had was bad, the "Affordable Care Act", made it worse. Now we're back to bad. The improvement for me is that now at least I can afford to buy the not so good insurance, which BTW is much better than what I paid quadruple for under the ACA.
Situations change depending on employment, income, type of insurance. I’ve been under all of the scenarios and it isn’t any different with Obamacare vs Trumpcare but depends on your state also. However cutting child healthcare from people who already can’t afford it doesn’t sound wise, those children simply won’t have health care.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
What we had was bad, the "Affordable Care Act", made it worse.
20+ million more got healthcare coverage, plus the CHIP program for kids was passed so there definitely was improvement in that area. Prior to the ACA being implemented, health care had been inflating at an average of 9% per year, which did get significantly reduced up until 2016.

However, with that being said, the ACA did not do enough to curb medical inflation, which they knew would be a problem when they passed it, thus hoping there could be some consensus reached on trying to correct that. However, the Republicans refused any cooperative efforts.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
20+ million more got healthcare coverage, plus the CHIP program for kids was passed so there definitely was improvement in that area. Prior to the ACA being implemented, health care had been inflating at an average of 9% per year, which did get significantly reduced up until 2016.

However, with that being said, the ACA did not do enough to curb medical inflation, which they knew would be a problem when they passed it, thus hoping there could be some consensus reached on trying to correct that. However, the Republicans refused any cooperative efforts.
Marco Rubio also torpedoed the Risk corridors, ensuring that insurers would have to raise their rates significantly to cover their arses.
Marco Rubio Quietly Undermines Affordable Care Act
Marco Rubio: We 'wiped out' Obamacare 'bailout fund' for insurance companies
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
You increase funding of Medicare. Medicare has always been a "pay as you go" system.
One easy way to do that is to stop giving the MIC so much money. Republicans will fight tooth and nail to rob tax payers blind.

Tax dollars go to corporations according to republicans, not the middle class (medicare)
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
One easy way to do that is to stop giving the MIC so much money. Republicans will fight tooth and nail to rob tax payers blind.

Tax dollars go to corporations according to republicans, not the middle class (medicare)

And where was all this favorability toward the middle class under Obama? Honestly, I sure didn't see any of it. All I saw was much much higher health insurance with higher deductibles and less coverage. In fact I had to opt out and just pay the fine. Not great now but at least I was able to choose a plan I can afford.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
And where was all this favorability toward the middle class under Obama? Honestly, I sure didn't see any of it. All I saw was much much higher health insurance with higher deductibles and less coverage. In fact I had to opt out and just pay the fine. Not great now but at least I was able to choose a plan I can afford.
Insurance rates were lower. You probably already had healthcare and weren't effected one bit. Why do you side with corporations not wanting to cover pre-existing conditions? Oh, you like corporate policies instead of middle class ones.... I get it.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
And where was all this favorability toward the middle class under Obama? Honestly, I sure didn't see any of it. All I saw was much much higher health insurance with higher deductibles and less coverage. In fact I had to opt out and just pay the fine. Not great now but at least I was able to choose a plan I can afford.
If your state didn’t accept the Medicaid expansion to begin with that’s their dumb fault. The system has always been income tiered so what your claiming doesn’t make much sense. Trump hasn’t changed anything to improve the costs for the savings your claiming came under Trump other than some states getting their crap together with Medicaid.
 
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