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Gospel of Thomas Part 1

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
Very interesting.. What is the Golden rule?

the golden rule is the basis for all things...

it literally can be used to sum the entirety of any mystical pursuit

..........

The mystery which unites two beings
is great; without it, the world would
not exist

–Plato

“Do unto others as you would wish them do unto you.”


“…a state that is not pleasing or delightful to me, how could I inflict that upon another?” Samyutta NIkaya v. 353
  • Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.” Udana-Varga 5:18
“Do for one who may do for you, that you may cause him thus to do.” –ancient egypt



“What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man. This is the law: all the rest is commentary.” Talmud, Shabbat 31a.


“Say unto them: Renounce murmuring, that ye may be worthy of the mysteries of the Light and be saved from the fire of the dog-faced [one].
“Say unto them: Renounce eavesdropping [?], that ye may [be worthy of the mysteries of the Light] and be saved from the judgments of the dog-faced [one].


–pistis sophia book 3


So the golden rule. The golden rule states one should act with thought, with care, with love towards each other. What does this mean? On a practical level it just means be nice, a good person. Acting like this obviously would make a much nicer place for all human beings, animals and non corporeal beings. If no one was selfish, if we shared instead of took. Simply respected one another.


If the woman had not separated from the man, she should not die with the man. His separation became the beginning of death. Because of this, Christ came to repair the separation, which was from the beginning, and again unite the two, and to give life to those who died as a result of the separation, and unite them. But the woman is united to her husband in the bridal chamber. Indeed, those who have united in the bridal chamber will no longer be separated. Thus Eve separated from Adam because it was not in the bridal chamber that she united with him.


–Gospel of Philip

On a deeper level we know the Golden rule exists as a simple but profound recognition that we are all of one being, one mind, one consciousness…all IS God. YHVH all that was, is and will be…By using the Golden rule we are recognizing the divinity in all things.

When my Beloved appears,
With what eye do I see Him?
With His eye, not with mine,
For none sees Him except Himself.

— ibn al-`Arabi
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Love, the only way to truly know something is to become it.
is the cup half full of water?
is the cup half empty of water?
is there even a cup, water or me?
…………………………………………….

Is a cup full?
Is a cup empty?


These are questions of duality, of mundane consciousness. Dialetic as the rosicrucian intro booklet calls it.

Some are quick to jump on the band wagon and state dualism is wrong. Well no it isn’t. Its just a matter of perspective and perception. Like seeing a piece of paper….with your eyes or with a microscope. On the surface we see paper, if we look deeper we see a whole new perspective.

If we are happy with mundane surface knowledge, episteme, bus time table knowledge then what is wrong? When we are ready to switch on our microscopes we can go deeper toward gnosis. Thus the golden rule…love one another..be respectful of one another. On the surface is a commandment to be “good.” But if we look deeper it is a fundamental command toward mystical union, theosis. Lover and Loved become ONE. So there is no cup or water, it is not empty because it no longer exists.

To explain further:

The Gnostics and Rosicrucians speak of the world as being false or broken. Our goal is to fix things. We are asleep and must awaken. In some forms of kabbala we find the idea of giving and receiving. The word Kabbalah itself means “to receive.” We find that in Kabbalah all reality is made of vessels and light. God gives light and the vessels receive the light. Then there is a complex system of how they get over the problem of light only giving and vessels only receiving. But there we see LOVE, the golden rule. GIVE and RECEIVE. There is no taking….Taking is ultimately selfish and against the golden rule. One is seeking power, when really if one follows the golden rule one should seek to be in harmony. Harmony, love, compassion.
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The time of action does not differ at all from my time of prayer; I possess God as tranquilly in the bustle of my kitchen –where sometimes several people are asking me different things at one time—as if I was on my knees before the blessed sacrament…It is not necessary to have great things to do. I turn my little omelet in the pan for the love of God; when it is finished, if I have nothing to do, I prostrate myself on the ground and adore my God, who gave me the grace to make it, after which I rise, more content than a King. When I cannot do anything else, it is enough for me to have lifted a straw from the earth for the love of God.


–Brother Lawrence


This cycle of give and receive allows for balance and to see that there is no glass, it is not empty or full. We gain a deeper understanding of what is. It is not so much that seeing the glass or the water was wrong it is more our understanding was different. All concepts by their very nature are wrong. Thus seeing the glass or realizing there is no glass are all the same. A piece of paper is a piece of paper whether we use our eyes or a microscope. It is too easily to take scripture, dogma, mysticism, experiences and state “what I see at a deeper level is correct, thus at a mundane level it is false.” This is simply not true..an apple is an apple…


Thus the golden rule as a nice way to get society to work..is not wrong; it is a highly valid expression of a way we as beings should interact with each other and everything! (The world is teeming with life, visible and invisible). At a deeper level we can see the golden rule breaks through all such ideas of duality, transcending our previous perception. Love, love of the divine…all are one.

But concepts are all false. All concepts are merely ways to help us reach a deeper understanding. What is the ultimate understanding? To BE what we seek to understand. Not to be like it, but to BE IT. To be GOD. Not to be a God but to BE GOD. Only then will we see that duality, non duality, the paper,the microscope, the cup and the water do not exist

All veils come from ignorance;
when ignorance has passed away
all the veils vanish and this life,
by means of gnosis,
becomes one with the life to come.


–al-Hujwir


So what does the Golden rule teach us? the ultimate truth,,,,LOVE…


by doing unto others we are doing unto the divine…we are becoming what we already are..learning that there is no glass, no water, no paper…there just is….

all that was, is and will be


I hope that touches briefly on some of the themes one can find from the golden rule….
Perhaps this is why the only real rosicrucian “commandment” is to heal……


People cannot see anything that really is without becoming like it. It is not so with people in the world, who see the sun without becoming the sun and see the sky and the earth and everything else without becoming them.

Rather, in the realm of truth,
you have seen things there, and have become those things,
you have seen the Spirit and become the Spirit,
you have seen Christ and become Christ,
you have seen the Father and will become Father.


Here in the world you see everything but do not see yourself, but there in that realm you see yourself, and you will become what you see.


–Gospel of Philip (Marvin Meyer translation)
 
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Bravo Mr Cheese!a beautifully constructed model.

For the golden rule you do not mention the golden ratio or golden mean,that which determines the structure of our carbon based lifeform as we ramify exponentially in self love according to the Law of Resonation/attraction?

Our (seemingly) physical body is just projection of this model,physical energy we can perceive.

All is love (or energy or resonation).Anything else is just contrast in the tao sort of model sense.

Great love
 

katiafish

consciousness incarnate
Bravo Mr Cheese!a beautifully constructed model.

For the golden rule you do not mention the golden ratio or golden mean,that which determines the structure of our carbon based lifeform as we ramify exponentially in self love according to the Law of Resonation/attraction?

Our (seemingly) physical body is just projection of this model,physical energy we can perceive.

All is love (or energy or resonation).Anything else is just contrast in the tao sort of model sense.

Great love

Care to elaborate further?
 
We see things as we are, not as they are.
~Khalil Gibran

In particular, the golden ratio.
Two values are in the golden ratio if the ratio between them is equal to ratio between sum and largest value.
Also known as the `divine proportion', `golden mean', `golden section.'
This ratio observed in large-scale constructions from the ancient world, e.g., Giza pyramids and the parthenon. Golden Mean is 1.6i8
Golden ratio and the human body

The ratio also correlates with observed proportions for the human body.



Well bone is just energy,this is evidence by Torus fractures when energy hit's it a perfect torus tube dinks out either side.

Take your top joint of your right index finger in your left thumb & index finger.the distance from the tip of your index finger to the joint is proportionate to the distance from that joint to the second joint.The larger joint is 1.618 X the size of the smaller.(move your left thumb & index finger down the joint of your right finger).The length of your 2nd joint to your knuckle is in the exact same proportion.All of your other finger's are similarly alligned(x1.618 of it's neighbour).

The length of your index finger is in similar proportion to the size of your hand from the knuckle to the wrist,the size of your hand(fingertip to wrist) is in the same proportion to the size of your forearm,the size of your forearm in the same proportion to your upper arm.(all x 1.618)

Same rule applies to both arm's,as it does from your toes up to your spine.

Also applies to the aestetics of the human face .

It occurs in nature over & over,snail shells etc etc

golden ratio - Google Images

There is more too if you can get your head around this.:) The amount of seeds in a sunflower can be exhibited by simple derivative of the golden.
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
the golden ratio is truly amazing....

most famously we see it as a spiral...

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Of course arguably it is a circle...
circle of spiral...the golden mean determines the shape of many things...
It even determines the ratio of food intake versus food expelled in a person...

Of course in the western mystery tradition and others....
time itself is seen as a spiral, which shows how the distant past is actually closer to the present
than the present is closer to the near future.

This is the reason it is "easy" to travel to the distant past..

;)
 
More arguably it is a wave,just slowed down from fluid state,resonating lower so it attract's according to it's own pattern of DNA.

Finobache Sequence occurs evrywhere in nature or absolute,even in the great river eridanus the same rules apply.:)
 

katiafish

consciousness incarnate
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The Golden Rectangle is proposed to be the most aesthetically pleasing of all possible rectangles. For this reason, it and the Golden Ratio have been used extensively in art and architecture for thousands of years. The most prominent and well known uses of the Golden Rectangle in art were created by the great Italian artist, inventor, and mathematician, Leonardo da Vinci.
 
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