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Goverment aims to require all Americans to possess a licence to use the internet

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Seriously? Awww....what the heck. Go for it Socialist brethren!

Are You Ready for a Driver

After all giving up freedom of speach and expression voiced in anonymity are well worth the price of overall safety and security watched benevolenty by our beloved leaders and protectors in goverment. Come on. After all, It's just a itty bitty licence likely issued for a modest fee and placed in a database somewhere. After all we do need to have and be under consistent surveillance so we can continue to enjoy our beloved freedoms we cherish so so so very very much.

It's absolutely wonderful to know the extremely caring and kind people who tirelessly strive to give the common folk that piece of mind so rightly deserved. God bless you all our benevolent and wonderful leaders who strive diligently to licence our internet activity.


After all. Bad and evil people should be quickly rounded up and prosecuted as well as banned from ever using the internet again. That will shut up bad awful people for good.

Yay!
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
This is ridiculous and I don't think this proposal will not last very long, if attempted at all.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I kinda get the impression that you guys didn't actually read the article.

In essence what they're wanting to do is have a central way of verifying or authenticating identity for certain kinds of internet transactions. It is also aimed at preventing fraud, which harms both consumers and producers alike. Fraud and identity theft are serious problems on the internet because of the lack of something like this. Now, if you're okay with them remaining serious problems, then carry on with the complaining, I suppose. :shrug:
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
I kinda get the impression that you guys didn't actually read the article.

In essence what they're wanting to do is have a central way of verifying or authenticating identity for certain kinds of internet transactions. It is also aimed at preventing fraud, which harms both consumers and producers alike. Fraud and identity theft are serious problems on the internet because of the lack of something like this. Now, if you're okay with them remaining serious problems, then carry on with the complaining, I suppose. :shrug:


Will people still be able to use the Internet without such a license?
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Nowhere Man,

Goverment aims to require all Americans to possess a licence to use the internet
What next? guess NSA has most people already under surveillance and now this, what nest? to have a camera fixed on your head; watching all your movements including what you speak, where you go, whom you meet and where, when, what, how you crap??

Love & rgds
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Will people still be able to use the Internet without such a license?

From what I gather from the article, absolutely. The entire point of what they're trying to do is verify identity for service transactions, which much of the internet doesn't involve. It's the equivalent of needing a library card to check out books from a library; you do not need a library card to partake in many of the services of a library, but if you borrow materials, cards hold people responsible for transactions.

And if the case is otherwise? Seriously, guys, let's stop and think for two seconds. America is foaming-at-the-mouth obsessed with personal liberties, often to its own detriment, and cries wolf at anything that even remotely smells like a limitation (as this thread is a fine example of). Something like that would never happen, and it would be unenforceable. It's about as likely as America actually taking global climate change seriously and addressing human overpopulation. It won't happen unless there's a major crisis, and even then, I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
It's complicated. On the one hand, we have the govt abusing their power with NSA surveillance etc. and on the other hand, we have the Internet, which is like the wild, wild west. Preventing fraud and identity theft are worthy reasons, but I just don't trust this federal government with implementing it due to rampant corruption. First, it is only to prevent fraud and ID theft, but what's next when they try (and they will) to expand power?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Personally, I'm far less concerned about "The Government" than I am about private corporations or individuals. I found it endlessly amusing (and also highly disturbing) that people got all up in arms when "The Government" was collecting pretty benign things like phone records for a respectable cause that serves a greater good, but didn't bother to have the same reaction to the tracking that companies do to us on a routine basis without our consent or our knowledge for causes that don't serve a greater good.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
Personally, I'm far less concerned about "The Government" than I am about private corporations or individuals. I found it endlessly amusing (and also highly disturbing) that people got all up in arms when "The Government" was collecting pretty benign things like phone records for a respectable cause that serves a greater good, but didn't bother to have the same reaction to the tracking that companies do to us on a routine basis without our consent or our knowledge for causes that don't serve a greater good.

Maybe we are being too paranoid and this is just the way modern civilization needs to develop. There is evidence of wide spread corruption, however. I am probably more distrusting of private corporations overall, but the line between them and govt is thinning. We're almost like a plutocratic republic with the wealthy running Washington.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friends,

Frankly speaking this is LIFE.
Nothing is PERFECT.
Each one 'thinks' according to his/her desires which are mainly wealth and power and will turn the laws to favouring them to such an end.
Govt. looks for power, and gain wealth through power. Corporations looks for wealth which can be used to buy power. This goes on and only the citizens [majority] not belonging to either are used for them to meet the ends.

Good/bad are extremes which are never possible to be reached and only those who finds the balance is able to float in this MIND [material/thoughtful] world by BEing and Living Mindfully.

There will never be an end to discussions on such issues of the extreme kind only discussions of balance within us will help us a balanced life.

Love & rgds
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
How on earth will they even do this?
well, best get all that porn surfing out of the way now.

How will this stop identity theft if we are forced to provide our own identity to even use the web to begin with? :facepalm:
Our ISP has our real info, it's what the FBI uses to catch pedo's and such.
They should just improve on that area.
And even if this becomes a reality, the really bad people on the web use Tor and such, almost impossible to trace back.

Ten bucks says google is behind it, they run the web, more or less, and every single update they do is closer and closer to requiring ones real name.
That and the fee's the will be generated from the "web licencing cost"

I am glad that I am expiring soon, the shoe stores dont make boots tall enough to walk though this nonsense hidden behind:
"its for you my fellow people, we are trying to help you" :D
"That will be $19.99 plus tax, good for a year"
lmfao
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend kashmir,

well, best get all that porn surfing out of the way now.
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry brother, no one can clear someone's mind of porn then how can one expect it to be out of the net?
The world is full of people where each has a mind and majority minds by nature think of sensual pleasure and marketeers arouse those sensuality to sell their products.
Its one big free world and so all enlightened individuals are pointing that only salvation comes through to them who 'stills' their minds and a still mind is free from all thoughts both good or bad. It is free of both god and satan.
You cannot stop bad to be good as its is getting bottled up inside one's mind ready to explode and that is more dangerous.

So this power and wealth will remain till majority humans understand it.
Till then........... keep learning!

Love & rgds
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In essence what they're wanting to do is have a central way of verifying or authenticating identity for certain kinds of internet transactions. It is also aimed at preventing fraud, which harms both consumers and producers alike. Fraud and identity theft are serious problems on the internet because of the lack of something like this. Now, if you're okay with them remaining serious problems, then carry on with the complaining, I suppose. :shrug:
That's how it seemed to me too.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
"A single ID that can be used across the entire Internet"

I think it's an excellent idea. The looseness and insecurity of the present password systems is horrifying.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Where does it say that all internet use requires this "drivers silence?" All I could find was a log on to be used for all government stuff, like applying for welfare and distribution of aid. Also so they can verify people online, and hopefully stream-line some of the messy, redundant, costly and confusing crap of having to give your information a hundred times to a hundred government agencies that for some reason are not stream lined or communicating with each other.
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
Friend kashmir,


Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry brother, no one can clear someone's mind of porn then how can one expect it to be out of the net?
The world is full of people where each has a mind and majority minds by nature think of sensual pleasure and marketeers arouse those sensuality to sell their products.
Its one big free world and so all enlightened individuals are pointing that only salvation comes through to them who 'stills' their minds and a still mind is free from all thoughts both good or bad. It is free of both god and satan.
You cannot stop bad to be good as its is getting bottled up inside one's mind ready to explode and that is more dangerous.

So this power and wealth will remain till majority humans understand it.
Till then........... keep learning!

Love & rgds

Lol, I didn't say porn was coming to an end, I am saying that anonymous surfing will comes to an end.
Huge difference.
 
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