grace is unfair?

[Iti oj]

A line from a song.

I admit that this life sentence im serving im every bit deserving but the beauty of grace is that it makes life unfair.

Im focused on the beauty of grace is that it makes life not fair. What does this mean to tou. Do you agree or disagree. How would you have worded it?

 

[SageTree]

Quote are useful for things like this.
I can't tell what is your thought, and what is the song.

Or is this all song?

CORN-Fused Brotha!

 

[Iti oj]

Quote are useful for things like this.
I can't tell what is your thought, and what is the song.

Or is this all song?

CORN-Fused Brotha!

Fixed. I would also note that i see it as a positive thing

 

[Renji]

Who's Grace?

 

[Iti oj]

Who's Grace?

That's what I thought at first. Lol salvation jesus is grace duh

 

[Renji]

That's what I thought at first. Lol salvation jesus is grace duh

Amen. In Catholic theology, being in the "state of grace" means having union or in friendship with Jesus. I see grace as a gift.

 

[Iti oj]

Amen. In Catholic theology, being in the "state of grace" means having union or in friendship with Jesus. I see grace as a gift.

As opposed to something earned? Perhaps thats why they say its unfair?

 

[SageTree]

I'm drawing a blank on this.

Am going to walk and do some errands.

Maybe I'll have some thoughts while I walk.

Cheers

 

[Renji]

That's what I thought at first. Lol salvation jesus is grace duh

As opposed to something earned? Perhaps thats why they say its unfair?

"Earned" in a sense that we "earn" it through holiness and obedience and we want to "earn" it out of love of God and love of what is good, and not because we're oblidged to do so.

 

[Renji]

Some see this unfair perhaps because they think that if God really loves us then He should love us no matter what ( in grace or not). What we don't see is that He do love us "in spite of" anything. Whatever we are. But, if we're loving Him outside of grace, we are loving Him with a contaminated heart. This contamination builds a wall between Him and us, blocking all the blessings and the relationship between Him and us that is enriched through grace. We can never say I love you while hurting the one we love.. That is the "point" of grace.

 

[4consideration]

A line from a song.

Im focused on the beauty of grace is that it makes life not fair. What does this mean to tou. Do you agree or disagree. How would you have worded it?

I would not have worded it in such a way as grace making life unfair, but I think I follow the basic concept -- and I happen to agree that grace is that which operates according to that principle (or maybe functions is a better word.)

Here's my take on grace:

There is cause and effect at work in the world. Actions follow a particular course, with a starting point and a vector determined by the quality of the action. Negative actions/attitudes tend to start things in a negative direction -- positive, a positive direction. That particular course will tend to take a person to a particular place, or a predictable result -- unless something in the course of things changes, something that establishes a new potential.

I think that forgiveness operates according to grace. Forgiveness within a situation of conflict establishes a new potential from the "I want to balance the books and get mine -- revenge" sort of scenario to a neutral state. I think that forgiveness allows for an immediate release of negative potential -- so that it does not have to play out through cause and effect in order for equilibrium to be maintained.

In that way, one could consider that grace is unfair if one believes "fairness" requires "payback." Grace cancels the "energetic debt."

 

[Iti oj]

"Earned" in a sense that we "earn" it through holiness and obedience and we want to "earn" it out of love of God and love of what is good, and not because we're oblidged to do so.

Spirit of the law. Would not people of any faith or lack of faith....ohh nee thresd tolic for latter. Is their a difference between grace being unfair and grace making life not fair?

 

[Renji]

Anyway iti, I just followed the flow on how you post and get some thoughts about it. But I think the song pertains to a different kind of grace.

 

[Iti oj]

Good point 4considerstion. I think thats what the song suggest too.

 

[Iti oj]

Anyway iti, I just followed the flow on how you post and get some thoughts about it. But I think the song pertains to a different kind of grace.

No its from a christian band. Ill just link the song and we can go from their?

 

[Iti oj]

[youtube]lvz0J0WBZPE[/youtube]
Relient K, Be my Escape - YouTube

 

[Renji]

Unfortunately I can't view youtube now, I'm just using phone connected via 3G. I'll think about it for a while.

 

[Iti oj]

Unfortunately I can't view youtube now, I'm just using phone connected via 3G. I'll think about it for a while.

I posted this via phone link included but be my escape by relient k

 

[SageTree]

My guess why life isn't 'fair'.

They are 18-20 and in a band. LoL

I got nothing on why grace makes life unfair.

 

[Iti oj]

If humans are inheritantly sinfull then maybe grace makes life fair.