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Gravitas: Jeff Bezos is going to Space

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I was going to let the air out of his space tires, loosen
his hyper-lug nuts, & put sugar in his tritanium gas tank.
But then it occurred to me that you'll do the job for me.

I don't hate all rich folk.
But I'd pour whiskey on his grave.
(Filtered thru me kidneys first.)

He needs a forum account. Then whenever we defeat him in the Last Poster thread, we'll feel great satisfaction.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But here we do talk about medicine, which should be free or cheap IMO. I was surprised to read that in some Muslim Country, Iran I think, it is free.
It could be free or cheap under any economic system.
Government need only provide it.
Taxes would fuel such efforts.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Vaccinations are useful, but some rich use them to gain more riches, not just for the well being of humanity, as vaccines should be used for IMO
I think you need to provide evidence for this claim.

Vaccines have not historically been big earners for pharmaceutical companies. Regarding SARS-CoV-2, this article gives an idea of the situation: Covid vaccines: Will drug companies make bumper profits?

It's easy to accuse "the rich" of all sorts of things, but vaccines are something that benefit humanity immensely. There is no evidence of vaccines being given that are not necessary, just to bump up profits.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
There is no evidence of vaccines being given that are not necessary, just to bump up profits.
In Holland we have had the yearly flu virus death (10.000) for the past 20+ years
Coincidentally past year we had ZERO flu death the stats mentioned
Makes me wonder...the flu virus miraculous disappeared?

I do believe in God
I do believe God could have a hand in this

But I don't believe God had a hand in this
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
In Holland we have had the yearly flu virus death (10.000) for the past 20+ years
Coincidentally past year we had ZERO flu death the stats mentioned
Makes me wonder...the flu virus miraculous disappeared?

I do believe in God
I do believe God could have a hand in this

But I don't believe God had a hand in this
The reason for that is obvious. We have had severe social distancing measures in place.

These measures have stopped all the respiratory viruses from propagating. Hardly anybody has even had a cold last winter. So it's not surprising we had no 'flu'. In fact the doctors predicted it.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
The reason for that is obvious. We have had severe social distancing measures in place.

These measures have stopped all the respiratory viruses from propagating. Hardly anybody has even had a cold last winter. So it's not surprising we had no 'flu'. In fact the doctors predicted it.
I don't buy that "NOT 1 single case of flu", whereas there are 10.000 cases in other years.

And if social distancing works so perfect against viruses then there should not have been so many cases of Covid either

For me its very clear, they added all flu death to corona death. But I respect you having a different opinion. Maybe one day proof will be there
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I don't buy that "NOT 1 single case of flu", whereas there are 10.000 cases in other years.

And if social distancing works so perfect against viruses then there should not have been so many cases of Covid either

For me its very clear, they added all flu death to corona death. But I respect you having a different opinion. Maybe one day proof will be there
If you read a bit more of the science, you would maybe understand. The R number for flu is significantly less than for SARS-CoV-2. That means that if you have social distancing measures sufficient to control SARS-CoV-2, you will prevent flu from spreading at all. Some details here: Is Covid more deadly and contagious than seasonal flu? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
If you read a bit more of the science, you would maybe understand.
No need to belittle me. Of course I read all that stuff; still things don't add up at all
We have had some major festivals with tenth of thousands people visiting, and ZERO flu death (no social distancing at all)

Anyway, Dutch people are not so good at following "you should social distance", I have seen plenty NOT keeping the distance...still ZERO death

And coincidentally the number of covid death is similar as the number of flu death we had in the recent years, no remarkable difference, hence 1 more reason I think they should at least have registered "1" death as "flu death" then they might have fooled me, but they totally forgot about that. Probably this year they will change that, because there are quite a few people asking questions about this "strange phenomena", also professors and experts and journalists ask these questions now

The R number for flu is significantly less than for SARS-CoV-2. That means that if you have social distancing measures sufficient to control SARS-CoV-2, you will prevent flu from spreading at all. Some details here: Is Covid more deadly and contagious than seasonal flu? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters
Like I said, I respect you having a different opinion on this. And time will tell, maybe, who was right. Let's wait and see.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
No need to belittle me. Of course I read all that stuff; still things don't add up at all
We have had some major festivals with tenth of thousands people visiting, and ZERO flu death (no social distancing at all)

Anyway, Dutch people are not so good at following "you should social distance", I have seen plenty NOT keeping the distance...still ZERO death

And coincidentally the number of covid death is similar as the number of flu death we had in the recent years, no remarkable difference, hence 1 more reason I think they should at least have registered "1" death as "flu death" then they might have fooled me, but they totally forgot about that. Probably this year they will change that, because there are quite a few people asking questions about this "strange phenomena", also professors and experts and journalists ask these questions now


Like I said, I respect you having a different opinion on this. And time will tell, maybe, who was right.
Read the link I provided. It's not just my opinion.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Read the link I provided. It's not just my opinion.
I know. It's like with religion ... there can be 2 billion Christians believing something specific, even big experts, but does not convince me. When it makes (common) sense to me, then I am easily convinced. In Holland the Government does get a little trouble now, because there are some experts who accuse them (in court) for misguiding the public, so I am sure 1 day the truth will emerge. The government has been lying quite a bit, and that is never smart, and I hope "justice will prevail".
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
this made me think of something I saw recently

in the 40s and 50s and 60s around 40% of the income of the US, went to the labor class

now it’s 20%

does this mean that the entire worker population must make do on HALF the income it had in those times, simply so a few obscenely rich people can waste vast amounts of money stroking their inflated egos?

just wondering
No it doesn’t mean that at all.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
In Holland we have had the yearly flu virus death (10.000) for the past 20+ years
Coincidentally past year we had ZERO flu death the stats mentioned
Makes me wonder...the flu virus miraculous disappeared?

I do believe in God
I do believe God could have a hand in this

But I don't believe God had a hand in this
An alternate possible explanation would be that you could simply have been inattentive or unwilling to check a stat that undermines a deeply held belief on your part.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
An alternate possible explanation would be that you could simply have been inattentive or unwilling to check a stat that undermines a deeply held belief on your part.
Yes, you are right. Of course God had a hand in this. Nothing happens without the Will of God. Not a blade of grass moves without God's Will

I forgot about that for a moment, thanks for reminding me
 
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