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Great News for the UK

Secret Chief

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
The Conservative Party have elected their latest leader and it's Kemi Badenoch, for which I am truly happy - on two counts.

First of all, tory racists won't vote for the party, it was bad enough with Sunak - this one is even darker.

Secondly, she's on the right of the right so she'll lose tory party votes to the Re**** party - exactly what happened in the General Election.

My only concern is that, with the knowledge of being a former software engineer, she once hacked into a Labour MP's website and changed some wording. I hope she's put such criminal behaviour behind her. She is a tory after all.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You still have to deal with the Re**** ** Party, though.

Deplorable lot as they are, they still need to be put in their place.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
The Tory party have a knack of electing leaders who are either very clever and not at all intelligent.
Or, Very intelligent but not at all clever.
As a result most of them are in a practical sense dumb.

I do not think they need a new leader who is extreme right wing but with no announced policies.

But at least the next few weeks will be interesting.
And she has made a lot of friends in high places that have watched over and guided her career.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Trump is not a political issue in the UK
He will either be the new president
Or dead in the water.
Or possibly simply dead.

Either which way Trumps time will be over, before Kemi Badenoch can get the chance at a general election. Which is nearly five years away.
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
It's an interesting development. According to the BBC ...

Badenoch got 53,806 votes to Jenrick’s 41,388 - making it the closest Tory leadership race of recent times.​

Bob Blackman, who oversaw the election as chair of the Conservative 1922 Committee, revealed the party membership had shrunk to 132,000 - the lowest level on record and down 40,000 members since the last vote by members in 2022. [source]​

The NYT quotes:

In her brief speech, Ms. Badenoch vowed to “reset our politics and our thinking” and to be “honest about the fact that we made mistakes.” But she did not lay out any new policy positions, in keeping with her refusal during the contest to be pinned down on specific policies.​
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“It’s quite unusual to go into a leadership contest eschewing the idea that you need to put together policies for the party,” said Tim Bale, a professor of politics and an expert on the Conservative Party at Queen Mary University of London.​
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Ms. Badenoch, he said, was also distinguished by her outspoken style and willingness to get into fierce debates over issues. He has described her as a “thinking man’s Thatcherite cultural warrior.”​
 
anotherneil

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
Secret Chief said:
The monarchy is politically irrelevant, but I would prefer not to have one.
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Well that's good, but how is taxpayers having to pay over £500 million a year to the London moocher family politically irrelevant?

That's not all; they're also above the law:
www.scmp.com

10 laws and rules that don’t apply to British royals

With King Charles ascending the British throne after the death of Queen Elizabeth, fans are wondering – will he and his royal family members get the same benefits?
www.scmp.com www.scmp.com
 
Secret Chief

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
anotherneil said:
Well that's good, but how is taxpayers having to pay over £500 million a year to the London moocher family politically irrelevant?

That's not all; they're also above the law:
www.scmp.com

10 laws and rules that don’t apply to British royals

With King Charles ascending the British throne after the death of Queen Elizabeth, fans are wondering – will he and his royal family members get the same benefits?
www.scmp.com www.scmp.com
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As I said, I'm not in favour of a monarchy so I agree with your points, but they are pretty much rubber stampers.
 
Eddi

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
anotherneil said:
Well that's good, but how is taxpayers having to pay over £500 million a year to the London moocher family politically irrelevant?

That's not all; they're also above the law:
www.scmp.com

10 laws and rules that don’t apply to British royals

With King Charles ascending the British throne after the death of Queen Elizabeth, fans are wondering – will he and his royal family members get the same benefits?
www.scmp.com www.scmp.com
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I prefer the monarchy to scumbag politicians

It is altogether more dignified

There are some proper arseholes who go into politics for all the wrong reasons
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
anotherneil said:
Well that's good, but how is taxpayers having to pay over £500 million a year to the London moocher family politically irrelevant?

That's not all; they're also above the law:
www.scmp.com

10 laws and rules that don’t apply to British royals

With King Charles ascending the British throne after the death of Queen Elizabeth, fans are wondering – will he and his royal family members get the same benefits?
www.scmp.com www.scmp.com
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That is small beer compared to the annual cost of the US president.
And it all comes fra the settlement between the royal family and the government.
Where they gave up their lands and possessions in exchange for an annual stipend.
I suppose we could just return the royal lands to them. After all a deal is a deal.

Unlike the president they do not mess in politics.

However I could put up with an Irish style non political presidency.

Most of the costs would be the same who ever was top dog. All the costs of the royal properties would be the same, as would the costs of entertaining foreign dignitaries and other functions.
Someone is inevitably the pr face of the UK. It is better for that not to to be a politician.
 
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RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
anotherneil said:
The only thing that would be great news for any monarchist nation is for it to become a republic.
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I used to think that, but witnessing the anger and division in both Republican France and the USA (to name but two unhappy republics) I’m no longer so sure.
 
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