Great Prediction

[Revoltingest]

Better than marginal. She was fully qualified to be President and would have maintained the status quo which was totally better than the utter disaster we have now. The choice was status quo vs destructive monster.

"Better" depends upon personal perspective & values.
To many of us, she portended a worse outcome, eg,
more war, higher taxes, bigger government, more
authoritarianism, worse SCOTUS nominations,
more corruption.
But those are things I dislike. Others value those.

 

[WalterTrull]

Better than marginal. She was fully qualified to be President and would have maintained the status quo which was totally better than the utter disaster we have now. The choice was status quo vs destructive monster.

Ya know, I just plain didn't like her. I really am not sure why. I voted for her because I couldn't vote for him. I think the Democrats would have won with a different candidate. I don't think too many really liked Trump, just hated her.

 

[metis]

I thought she was considered a rather good senator.

And she was praised by both McConnell and Ryan when Secretary of State, which of course ended when she ran for pres.

 

[metis]

Ya know, I just plain didn't like her. I really am not sure why. I voted for her because I couldn't vote for him. I think the Democrats would have won with a different candidate. I don't think too many really liked Trump, just hated her.

Ditto.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ya know, I just plain didn't like her. I really am not sure why. I voted for her because I couldn't vote for him. I think the Democrats would have won with a different candidate. I don't think too many really liked Trump, just hated her.

I say that the really smart ones disliked both,
but eschewed hatred. Hatred lowers the IQ.

 

[tytlyf]

I say that the really smart ones disliked both,
but eschewed hatred. Hatred lowers the IQ.

Smart people made the responsible choice given the 2 options. Guess who that is? (choices: Clinton or Trump)

 

[metis]

The choice was status quo vs destructive monster.

And so many of them that voted for him deluded themselves into "thinking" he was a conservative, libertarian, anti-war, honest man who would "drain the swamp" and end "crony capitalism".

 

[Revoltingest]

And so many of them that voted for him deluded themselves into "thinking" he was a conservative, libertarian, anti-war, honest man who would "drain the swamp" and end "crony capitalism".

Trump as a libertarian?
No one thought that.
Twas just that a loose cannon was better than one pointed at us.

 

[David1967]

How well was Obama "qualified"?
By that, near every member of congress
would have been a better choice.

Good point.

Truman slipped up a time or two, but
everyone who said he was unqualified
was wrong.

What he brought to the table was sound
character and values, And solid common sense.

True.

Hillary is not one you'd look to for a character
role model.

In some weird 'Twilight Zone' alternate earth dimension episode, maybe.

 

[David1967]

Ya know, I just plain didn't like her. I really am not sure why. I voted for her because I couldn't vote for him. I think the Democrats would have won with a different candidate. I don't think too many really liked Trump, just hated her.

You make a good point. The vast majority of people I know didn't really like either one of them. For the biggest part they voted for one or the other due to either supporting their own party or the one they thought may do the least harm.

 

[David1967]

Smart people made the responsible choice given the 2 options. Guess who that is? (choices: Clinton or Trump)

Trump!! I knew it. Your a closet Republican!!

 

[David1967]

And so many of them that voted for him deluded themselves into "thinking" he was a conservative, libertarian, anti-war, honest man who would "drain the swamp" and end "crony capitalism".

And many voted for him due to an intense dislike of Hillary.....And vice versa.

 

[metis]

And many voted for him due to an intense dislike of Hillary.....And vice versa.

I disliked Hillary as well, but there's no way that I would ever vote for someone like Trump, regardless of party. I voted 3rd party for president under circumstances whereas I considered either choice appalling, and I did that twice.

Hillary had a good record in the Senate and as SoS, and she was praised by quite a few Republicans for her jobs there. I felt we needed someone else there, planned to vote for Stein but changed my mind at the last minute because I strongly felt that Trump had to be stopped because he was potentially dangerous.

IOW, my choice was not based on politics but was based on fear, and my feelings along that line have been borne out.

 

[Underhill]

Hillary is only marginal?
Oh, dear.

A lot of accusations and no proof. She didn't spend enough time thinking about security. Beyond that, she had a lot going for her.

 

[Underhill]

Any politician is considered good by those who like either the person or the political agenda.
But I found Hillary's record lacking in what I'd want, eg, less war, competence, less corruption.

So you consider an orange haired moron with anger issues and a propensity to be power hungry the one to choose. Makes sense to me.

But you are half right. He is cozying up to our enemies so the threat of war is way down... for now anyway.

 

[Underhill]

Nope, I wont say or agree to that.
Some ways, probably.

How well was Obama "qualified"?
By that, near every member of congress
would have been a better choice.

Truman slipped up a time or two, but
everyone who said he was unqualified
was wrong.

What he brought to the table was sound
character and values, And solid common sense.

Hillary is not one you'd look to for a character
role model.

She is qualified. She knows the office, knows those she has to deal with, knows how to get things done in Washington, and has a history of diplomacy. Obama was less qualified. But was a vast improvement to Trump even if we discount policy choices.

I would agree with you about her character, except that the comparison to Trump makes her look like a saint. So it's hard to give her too much garbage for that in light of current circumstance.

 

[Audie]

She is qualified. She knows the office, knows those she has to deal with, knows how to get things done in Washington, and has a history of diplomacy. Obama was less qualified. But was a vast improvement to Trump even if we discount policy choices.

I would agree with you about her character, except that the comparison to Trump makes her look like a saint. So it's hard to give her too much garbage for that in light of current circumstance.

Is all what one means by qualified I guess, and that
has been an issue for longer than any of us have been alive.

I thought of her as lesser of two evils, but what
a poor deal that is. 300 plus million people, and
that is the best we can put forward?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

On July 26, 1920, H.L. Mencken wrote in the Baltimore Evening Sun,

"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."

I'd say that's one prediction that was absolutely aced!

The one about fascism arriving carrying a cross, wrapped in a flag is pretty dead on, too.

 

[Underhill]

Is all what one means by qualified I guess, and that
has been an issue for longer than any of us have been alive.

I thought of her as lesser of two evils, but what
a poor deal that is. 300 plus million people, and
that is the best we can put forward?

It's never been about the best. It's been about the best of those who have managed to work there way into the limelight. The American people would never vote for the best. He/she would be too elitist, too educated and too boring to win any kind of election.

 

[Audie]

It's never been about the best. It's been about the best of those who have managed to work there way into the limelight. The American people would never vote for the best. He/she would be too elitist, too educated and too boring to win any kind of election.

The best wont even put in for the job.

In China-no shining example to hold up, but-
you do not get to the top except by being smarter
and tougher than about a billion other people.

The best? In that regard.