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"Green Thing"

McBell

Unbound
Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment.
The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

The older lady said that she was right -- our generation didn't have the "green thing" in its day.

The older lady went on to explain:
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable besides household garbage bags was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribbles. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.

But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then.

We walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building.
We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.

Back then we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw away kind.

We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts.

Wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days.
Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Back then we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana.

In the kitchen we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us.

When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.

Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power.

We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water.

We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost what a whole house did before the"green thing."

We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances.

And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then?

We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to **** us off...

Especially from a young know it all who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
The flip side of the story is that this same generation that didn't have the "green thing" decided to latch on to throw-away consumerism and support it. When appropriate technology could have been the route the culture took, that generation made the decisions that led us down a path of rampant wastefulness. What's particularly sad is many of that generation were in support of appropriate tech. Greer's words (an interview about one of his books covering the topic linked to there) are better than my own on this, as someone who has done considerably more research into this.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I remember my friends & I walking a couple miles to the nearest town (it had a store!).
Along the way, we'd search for returnable pop bottles in ditches.
By the time we got there, we each had enuf of'm (at $.02 each) to buy a candy bar or two.
Money seemed so plentiful.
It was just lying in the ditch, waiting for us to collect it!
Who knew were being green at the time?
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
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Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
My generation may be perpetuating the problem but we didn't creat it or design the system .
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
I think it's kind of dumb to try to look back and say previous generations weren't concerned about the environment because of the difference in population. My grandfather...part of "the greatest generation" (a rant for another occasion) was born in 1925. The estimated population of the world at that time was just around 2 billion. There are now close to 7 billion people on the planet.

In America just 100 years ago we still had wide open spaces, cities weren't as choked with people and automobiles were still fairly rare. They just didn't think about environmental issues as much because with the much lower population, we just weren't as harmful to the Earth. As the population rapidly grows we have a greater and greater effect on our environment so this is why this generation has to start being a lot more diligent about it.

The main problem is we have to stop our disgusting population growth. We've tripled our population in 100 years. If we go from 7 billion to 21 billion in the next 100 years we're doomed no matter how many bottles we return.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
The main problem is we have to stop our disgusting population growth. We've tripled our population in 100 years. If we go from 7 billion to 21 billion in the next 100 years we're doomed no matter how many bottles we return.
This ^^^^^

Frankly, as a gay male nonparent I don't see why I should bother about climate change and biocollapse if people are going to just keep popping out babies until it all comes down to smoking ash anyway.
Tom
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
Frankly, as a gay male nonparent I don't see why I should bother about climate change and biocollapse if people are going to just keep popping out babies until it all comes down to smoking ash anyway.
Tom

Because it's the right thing to do, and perhaps if we set examples future generations will act better and deal with the population issue.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Because it's the right thing to do,
What do you mean by "right"?
What I mean by the word is utterly selfish. I want to live in a world where I am treated with respect and kindness. So I treat others that way.
Usually. ;)
I want to live in the kind of world we would have if the lucky and the strong helped out the less so. Not because I care about them, but because I believe I would have a better life in such a world. So I try to do that, being rather strong and lucky.
and perhaps if we set examples future generations will act better and deal with the population issue.
What you are suggesting here though is different.
Here you are suggesting something like," You should put yourself out to help rescue a burning building, while the owners keep throwing gasoline onto it and each other.

Sorry parents of young children. I'm uninclined to do that.

Especially when so many of you think that I am an abomination before God. And so I don't deserve basic respect like equality before the law.
The fact is, I am setting an example. I don't have kids.
So get back to me on the moral issues when poor people stop popping out babies they cannot support and rich people stop buying their toddlers iPhones, but don't think that recycling programs are worth paying extra taxes for.
Tom
 

McBell

Unbound
Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment.
The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

The older lady said that she was right -- our generation didn't have the "green thing" in its day.

The older lady went on to explain:
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable besides household garbage bags was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribbles. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.

But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then.

We walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building.
We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.

Back then we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw away kind.

We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts.

Wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days.
Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Back then we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana.

In the kitchen we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us.

When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.

Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power.

We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water.

We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost what a whole house did before the"green thing."

We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances.

And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then?

We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to **** us off...

Especially from a young know it all who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.
I find it rather interesting how today's youth, not all of them, but definitely the vast majority, are so epic-ally ignorant of the good old days.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Burning 220 volts? Voltage is a measurement of electrical pressure. She should have referred to wattage, a measurement of energy. Stupid old bag!
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Burning 220 volts? Voltage is a measurement of electrical pressure. She should have referred to wattage, a measurement of energy. Stupid old bag!
Hello! That is the problem with the current generation. They don't understand what real power is!
 
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