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Guardian of Darkness

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Here until I storm off again
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Copypasta from The Satanic Reds.

edit: NM, they are affiliated in some way. Just to be generally confusing, mind you.

Yeah they don't even really try to hide the connection. I've found them interesting so far though, kind of along the lines of Kenneth Grant but far more lucid. Just the cheap feel made me think of the JoS site.
 

Mindmaster

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Yeah they don't even really try to hide the connection. I've found them interesting so far though, kind of along the lines of Kenneth Grant but far more lucid. Just the cheap feel made me think of the JoS site.

Except that it is way older, really the Red's coexisted with CoS back in the day, pre-ToS. Anyway, an interesting history lesson...

Satanic Reds

Many of the first things I read regarding Satanism were written by Tani Jantsang, but obviously my natural views have drifted from there. :D Kenneth Grant was approaching many of the same subjects, so I guess for you the appeal is natural. :D
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Copypasta from The Satanic Reds.

edit: NM, they are affiliated in some way. Just to be generally confusing, mind you.

I read some of the stuff on the "Guardians of Darkness", some of it is pretty interesting.

I learned about the "Satanic Reds" during my short affiliation with the "First Church of Satan" back in 2000. I wasn't very impressed with SR (also didn't like their ties with Communism) nor the FCoS. :thumbsdown:
 

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
Yeah they don't even really try to hide the connection. I've found them interesting so far though, kind of along the lines of Kenneth Grant but far more lucid. Just the cheap feel made me think of the JoS site.
JOS is a disgrace. That site supports nazism.
 

Mindmaster

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I read some of the stuff on the "Guardians of Darkness", some of it is pretty interesting.

I learned about the "Satanic Reds" during my short affiliation with the "First Church of Satan" back in 2000. I wasn't very impressed with SR (also didn't like their ties with Communism) nor the FCoS. :thumbsdown:

Yeah, I find any attempt to merge communism with Satanism very strange in the first place as it is primarily about treating everyone equally (like trash), and most LHPers are probably into the whole merit-based reward thing, if not just overtly capitalist. I simply don't know enough about the FCoS to have any opinion of it whatsoever. Sort of fun to reminisce about those things, but now I feel old. :)
 

Mindmaster

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Not all. I wasn't aware of it when I followed JOS in 2012.

If you stayed on their JoS site you probably wouldn't, but once you get into their links it's a different conversation. That's not to say that some of the information up there isn't pretty useful before you hit that section of the page, however. :D

The JoS, Satanic Reds, and even the old ONA were really the only theistic groups at the time that I started out. I'm amazed I didn't get sucked into one of them, lol.
 

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
If you stayed on their JoS site you probably wouldn't, but once you get into their links it's a different conversation. That's not to say that some of the information up there isn't pretty useful before you hit that section of the page, however. :D

The JoS, Satanic Reds, and even the old ONA were really the only theistic groups at the time that I started out. I'm amazed I didn't get sucked into one of them, lol.
I don't trust JOS and their nazism crap.
 

Mindmaster

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I don't trust JOS and their nazism crap.

Yeah, I me either. Honestly, not much of a joiner anyway and I fail to see how Nazi ideology ties to Satanism. The Nazi's placed the importance of the state and Fuehrer way above anything else, and it embraced socialism for the average Joe and Jane. Satanism is certainly about meritocracy, if we are going political, so it is completely at odds with this idea in the first pace.

Anyway, I fail to see the need to syncretize all of these disparate ideas together. I find that questionable of most modern LHP organizations, because I find it undesirable in the way that buffet food is much less of a draw than the best burger in town, or steak. :D The inability to codify and isolate your beliefs into a cohesive whole and instead just cater to everyone by gluing everything together is something I generally feel is repulsive.
 

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
Yeah, I me either. Honestly, not much of a joiner anyway and I fail to see how Nazi ideology ties to Satanism.
Because Nazism has nothing to do with Satanism. I see some Satanist say "Hail Hitler". Even on JOS they talk about racism. Btw wasn't Hitler a catholic?
 
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