Halal meat and Muslims selecting food in non-Muslim countries

[Treks]

Hello

I hope you are all having a blessed Ramadan so far.

Can you please tell me, for Muslims living in non-Muslim countries, where meat products may not be labelled 'halal', does the Muslim need to be a vegetarian? Or can they eat the regular meat available as long as it is not pork?

Many thanks.

 

[Sakeenah]

Hello

I hope you are all having a blessed Ramadan so far.

Can you please tell me, for Muslims living in non-Muslim countries, where meat products may not be labelled 'halal', does the Muslim need to be a vegetarian? Or can they eat the regular meat available as long as it is not pork?

Many thanks.

Hi

From a sunni perspective (Qur'an and sunnah saying the name of Allah before slaughtering is a condition for it to be halal.
But we are also allowed to eat meat from the ahlul kitaab( people of the book-jews and Christians) as long as they don't mention any other name like Jesus etc


If a person can't find any halal meat or meat slaughtered by jews/christians one can eat seafood and like you mentioned vegetarian food. The only time one is allowed to eat non halal meat is when there isn't any other food available and If you don't eat it there's a possibility of starving.

Personally when I go somewhere where there isn't any halal food like a restaurant I always choose a vegetarian dish.

 

[seeking4truth]

What does the word Halal mean? I think it means 'wholesome and pure'. It does not mean dedicated to Allah.

The Holy Quran tells you to NOT eat that which dies of itself, blood or the flesh of swine or that which has been dedicated to any so called deity.
Beyond this as long as you say the name of Allah before eating anything, to express your gratitude, and the food is wholesome and clean then Muslims may eat it, as far as I can see.

 

[Treks]

Thanks Seeking4Truth. I look forward to hearing any other points of view on your perspective.

Treks

 

[Godobeyer]

What does the word Halal mean? I think it means 'wholesome and pure'. It does not mean dedicated to Allah.

The Holy Quran tells you to NOT eat that which dies of itself, blood or the flesh of swine or that which has been dedicated to any so called deity.
Beyond this as long as you say the name of Allah before eating anything, to express your gratitude, and the food is wholesome and clean then Muslims may eat it, as far as I can see.

Halal is "allowed",it is opposite of forbiden (Haram)

 

[OurCreed]

If you want McDonald's, go ahead.

Halal in Islam just means 'lawful'.

Beef is lawful meat in Islam, so whoever makes beef, as long as it's clean and hasn't been given up for idols before slaughtering (which to be honest, doesn't happen at all today), then it is halal. It doesn't matter who makes it or where it's from, whether a restaurant, a store, a market, your neighbor, etc. Beef is lawful. So is chicken, lamb, fish, etc...

Muslims these days think that halal means when you do the Islamic slaughter, that is incorrect. The Qur'an makes no mention of this, that halal is when you slaughter the animal in a special way.

Halal is basically what is not haram, which means forbidden.

The Qur'an makes it clear what is forbidden, pork, animal dying of natural causes, blood, etc. These things are forbidden, everything else is allowed.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If you want McDonald's, go ahead.

Halal in Islam just means 'lawful'.

Beef is lawful meat in Islam, so whoever makes beef, as long as it's clean and hasn't been given up for idols before slaughtering (which to be honest, doesn't happen at all today), then it is halal. It doesn't matter who makes it or where it's from, whether a restaurant, a store, a market, your neighbor, etc. Beef is lawful. So is chicken, lamb, fish, etc...

Muslims these days think that halal means when you do the Islamic slaughter, that is incorrect. The Qur'an makes no mention of this, that halal is when you slaughter the animal in a special way.

Halal is basically what is not haram, which means forbidden.

The Qur'an makes it clear what is forbidden, pork, animal dying of natural causes, blood, etc. These things are forbidden, everything else is allowed.

Is this a specifically Ahmadiyya position? Asked differently, how would this post be viewed by the majority non-Ahmadiyya Muslims?

 

[OurCreed]

Is this a specifically Ahmadiyya position? Asked differently, how would this post be viewed by the majority non-Ahmadiyya Muslims?

Both Ahmadi and non-Ahmadi Muslims hold this view, it's a matter of interpretation. So no, this isn't just specific to the Ahmadiyya position. It's all Qur'an.

 

[Pastek]

Is this a specifically Ahmadiyya position? Asked differently, how would this post be viewed by the majority non-Ahmadiyya Muslims?

The majority of muslims won't eat a meat who was not slaughtered by muslims (or who is not kosher).

22.34 And for all religion We have appointed a rite [of sacrifice] that they may mention the name of Allah over what He has provided for them of [sacrificial] animals. For your god is one God, so to Him submit. And, [O Muhammad], give good tidings to the humble [before their Lord]


22.36 So mention the name of Allah upon them when lined up [for sacrifice]; and when they are [lifeless] on their sides, then eat from them and feed the needy and the beggar. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may be grateful.


There is also a specific way to slaughter the animal which is not made by non muslims (exept jews) so their meat is not considerate as "halal" :


The food must come from a supplier that uses halal practices. Specifically, the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must precede the slaughter by invoking the name of Allah, most commonly by saying "Bismillah" ("In the name of God") and then three times "Allahu akbar" (God is the greatest). Then, the animal must be slaughtered with a sharp knife by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck, causing the animal's death without cutting the spinal cord. Lastly, the blood from the veins must be drained.

Halal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The slaughter itself must be done by a sane (mentally competent) adult Muslim, Jew, or Christian as they are considered "People of the Book" (Arabic: Ahl al-Kitāb‎); this is a point of consensus amongst Muslim scholars. They differ, however, concerning whether Sabians and Zoroastrians are also included under People of the Book as stated in Surat al-Maʼidah, ayah 5.

The verse : >>>> http://quran.com/5/5

The conventional method used to slaughter the animal involves cutting the large arteries in the neck along with the esophagus and vertebrate trachea with one swipe of a non-serrated blade. Care must be taken that the nervous system is not damaged, as this may cause the animal to die before exsanguination has taken place. During the swipe of the blade, the head must not be decapitated. While blood is draining, the animal is not handled until it has died.


It is also compulsory that each animal must be slaughtered individually and in seclusion. In a poultry farm or slaughter house, one animal must not witness another animal being slaughtered.[15]

Dhabihah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hello

Can you please tell me, for Muslims living in non-Muslim countries, where meat products may not be labelled 'halal', does the Muslim need to be a vegetarian? Or can they eat the regular meat available as long as it is not pork?

We can eat fish and sea food if we don't find halal meat, kosher is ok.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Thank you, @Pastek , this has been my understanding of Halal/Dhabihah as well. Eid Mubarak.

 

[Pastek]

You're welcome, thank you