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Half of US Teens Meet Criteria for Mental Disorder

linwood

Well-Known Member
I love to case aspersions on vulnerable groups, but in this case I have to disagree. I just know too many shrinks who really help their patients, & too many
people who couldn't function without professional help.

I know just as many preists who are truly helpful to their followers.
Doesn`t give the basis of belief for that help a bit of credence though.

Btw, psychiatrists are physicians, & better able than anyone else to handle neurological disorders.

There`s a statement without a foundation.

Shrinks have been unnecessarily drugging our kids with serious neural chemicals without a clue of the effects they will have on the kids.

We will reap the results of this inhuman folly, perhaps this "study" is evidence that we already are.

Google "The Medicated Child" and weep.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know just as many preists who are truly helpful to their followers.
Doesn`t give the basis of belief for that help a bit of credence though.
I don't doubt you on this. But some personal problems are above their pay grade.

There`s a statement without a foundation.
Shrinks have been unnecessarily drugging our kids with serious neural chemicals without a clue of the effects they will have on the kids.
We will reap the results of this inhuman folly, perhaps this "study" is evidence that we already are.
Google "The Medicated Child" and weep.
I wouldn't say there are no problems in the field, since mental health is extraordinarily complex & difficult.
But to cast them as no better than the clergy is arguable. Suppose you began hearing voices...voices which
told you to do things. Whom would you see in preference to a psychiatrist?
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't say there are no problems in the field, since mental health is extraordinarily complex & difficult.
But to cast them as no better than the clergy is arguable. Suppose you began hearing voices...voices which
told you to do things. Whom would you see in preference to a psychiatrist?

My drug dealer, at least he has some knowledge in his area of expertise.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
At this point in my life..if I was hearng voices..voices that told me to do things or told me anything at all..and no one was in the room but me?

I would go to a neurologist.

Love

Dallas
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
At this point in my life..if I was hearng voices..voices that told me to do things or told me anything at all..and no one was in the room but me?

I would go to a neurologist.

Dammit Dallas, if you keep giving him serious answers he`s gonna keep asking questions!!

OK..fine, I`d probably have a neurologist run a few scans myself, but if he can`t figure it out I`m heading right back to my drug dealer.
At least then I could rationalize a source for the voices.

:)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What do you make of this? Why?
Doesn't surprise me. Considering that being an adolescents is a time of many physical changes, new social roles, new responsibilities, surging sexual urges, and brains that are still developing, and thinking they are invincible and all eyes are on them, one can argue the point that being an adolescent is a mental disorder of it's own. Not a real one, but it fits the criteria. However, our society also makes it harder, especially towards girls.
Teens are living in a society with a social disorder.
You can't dismiss the troubles that many teens go through just because the go through many radical physical, psychological, and social changes. But overall our society could be friendlier towards teens.
 
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Alceste

Vagabond
I'm skeptical about psychiatry myself (due to its over-reliance on pharmaceuticals), but it's one of the few fields we have that even attempts to deal with mental illness with anything resembling professionalism or empiricism.

That said, their book of "mental illnesses" is pretty freakin' fat, from what I hear. I'm not sure many of us could stroll into a psychiatrist's office and not stroll out without a "diagnosis" of some kind (along with a prescription). That book used to include homosexuality and female sexual desire.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
That book used to include homosexuality and female sexual desire.

What? You have females with sexual desire walking around there in the USA?

It's the end times, I tell you. Next thing you know they will actually want to engage in sex.






Now, how much is a ticket worth again?
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
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According to a study released October 2010, half of US teens meet the criteria for being diagnosed with one or another mental disorder. And in about a fifth of teens, the disorder was so severe it impaired daily activities.

What do you make of this? Why?

I hate to say the truth that no one wants to hear, but it's because our society is really very sick. It's awash in gross materialism and greed is the driving factor. In our society it becomes all about self.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm skeptical about psychiatry myself (due to its over-reliance on pharmaceuticals), but it's one of the few fields we have that even attempts to deal with mental illness with anything resembling professionalism or empiricism.
That said, their book of "mental illnesses" is pretty freakin' fat, from what I hear. I'm not sure many of us could stroll into a psychiatrist's office and not stroll out without a "diagnosis" of some kind (along with a prescription). That book used to include homosexuality and female sexual desire.
I've had many such discussions in the course of collecting rent from psychiatrists, psychologists, analysts & social workers. (Tis interesting work they do...much different from mechanical engineering!) In a nutshell, the predominating view is that we all have persistent issues/problems, but if they don't interfere with our lives in a hurtful way, then we don't need their services, nor would we even be diagnosed with anything. As with any field, some practitioners are better than others, so over-prescription of psychoactive drugs can happen. But there's no doubting that some people are greatly helped by drugs or surgery (eg, when the shrink diagnoses a brain tumor which turns out to be the cause of a psychiatric disorder). Remember that a psychiatrist is an MD, & has graduated from medical school (same as your personal physician, just a different specialty).

Some definitions:
A neurotic builds castles in the sky.
A psychotic lives there.
A psychiatrist collects the rent.

Btw, do you have a source for the claim that desire itself was a psychiatric disorder in females?
 
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Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Yes, very superficial and individualistic.

I'll point out though that this is becoming the case all over. Australia is very much like this now too.

Yes it is sad, and people are so immersed in over-materialism, just constantly hoarding things, that they're killing their spirituality.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I've had many such discussions in the course of collecting rent from psychiatrists, psychologists, analysts & social workers. (Tis interesting work they do...much different from mechanical engineering!) In a nutshell, the predominating view is that we all have persistent issues/problems, but if they don't interfere with our lives in a hurtful way, then we don't need their services, nor would we even be diagnosed with anything. As with any field, some practitioners are better than others, so over-prescription of psychoactive drugs can happen. But there's no doubting that some people are greatly helped by drugs or surgery (eg, when the shrink diagnoses a brain tumor which turns out to be the cause of a psychiatric disorder). Remember that a psychiatrist is an MD, & has graduated from medical school (same as your personal physician, just a different specialty).

Some definitions:
A neurotic builds castles in the sky.
A psychotic lives there.
A psychiatrist collects the rent.

Btw, do you have a source for the claim that desire itself was a psychiatric disorder in females?
No, because I only just now made it up to enhance the ironic bitterness of my anti-psychiatry comment.

:)
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Yes it is sad, and people are so immersed in over-materialism, just constantly hoarding things, that they're killing their spirituality.

I don't disagree, but don't you think there is something more to it? After all, it is not like previous generations were all that selfless and free from materialistic greed.

I believe that much of this current situation comes from, for lack of a better word, misplaced "hurry" coupled with a genuine confusion about the social roles. Insecurity and lack of other trustworthy references makes people more willing to take refuge into material conforts, imo.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Maybe kids aren't any worse off than before, but media attention & increased recognition of problems just makes it appear worse.
 
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