Interesting points Marco.
The difficulty arises when we have to reject previous philosophy in order to assert our own.
Just look at these statements.
Indeed every major religion, and "ism" of the world has suffered to some degree the infection of mayavada. We find ourselves bombarded by the false lullaby of oneness in poetry, literature, on TV or the car radio. The "I am you and we are God so we can do no wrong" concept has even been used in the upscale advertising of Japanese electronics in slick periodicals; the con being that "since we are one, there can be no cheating here."
There is no truth to the rascal Mayavada idea that after liberation we all intermingle and become a homogeneous lump.“I have become God. We are all God.” This rascal atheistic philosophy has killed the whole world. Ask anyone if they accept. Ask him to his face: “Do you accept Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead?” If he says, “No,” tell him, “Then you are a rascal.” That’s all. There is no exception.
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They’ll talk of Krsna, so many things but they’re not devotees. Just like Kamsa. They may talk of Krsna or think of Krsna, but they don’t accept Krsna as the Supreme. Therefore they are demons. This is the test…
Devotee: The Jains have the same kind of philosophy also.
Prabhupada: Everyone. All philosophies, they are more or less Mayavada. All Mayavada. Different types of Mayavada philosophy. Therefore they should be discarded. Hare Krsna. Thank you very much. What you are, all students?
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Sankaracarya's belief is personal. Actually he is a covered personalist. He became impersonalist just to drive away Buddhism. All of India was Buddhist voidism. So, although a personalist, he had to keep pace with voidism by expounding impersonalism. There is very little difference between impersonalism and voidism, but because he had to bring Buddhists back to the Vedic cultural form, he adopted impersonalism.
Actually Buddha philosophy does not accept God, neither soul. They simply philosophize on the material elements, and they want to finish the material exis..., dismantle the material elements. Nirvana. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu has remarked that the Buddhists are honest. They frankly say that "We don't accept your Vedas." But the Shankarites, they are cheaters, because they are accepting Vedas, but on the basis of Buddha philosophy. That is cheating."
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It is amazing...there is lot of intellectual arrogance in Hare Krishna philosophy .
Basically there is lack of knowledge of mayavada principle in these Hare Krishna's.They do not know that Buddhism and advaita is complete self-nullification.
They want in to believe in one God.i.e Krishna.They say man equates himself with God in advaita which is wrong.While agree some points in advaita can mislead to self-boasting .But that is not what it is intended for.
In advaita Vedanta,Brahman and Krishna(personal god) are indifferent.Not that Krishna is under maya ,we are under the influence of mind i.e maya.There is no ego here.There is brahman alone ,not even 1% "I " in advaita state.It is the Brahman which I ,you and everything else.Even a basic study of Yoga sutra of patanjali ,would say that there is no Subject - Object duality in final samadhi state.
This is put forth in the Maha Upanishad and Uttara gita.
‘Good Sir, man may have a four-fold certitude.
‘Engendered by (my) mother and father, I am (the body) from the foot to the head. This particular certitude, O Brahmin, results from the observation of the worries of bondage !
‘Good men have second kind of certitude that promotes liberation – viz.: "I am beyond all objects and beings; I am subtler than the tip of a hair".
‘Best of Brahmins, a third kind of certitude has been affirmed promotive of liberation alone (consisting in the thought) " All this objective world, the entire indestructible universe, is but myself".
‘Also there is a fourth certitude, yielding liberation (that consists of the assertion) "I and the entire world are empty and sky-like at all times".
‘Of these the first is said (to result from) the craving that earns bondage. Those having the last three are sportive, extremely pure and are liberated in this (very) life. Their cravings have been (wholly) purified.
Advaitins tell that they are everything,because they are nothing.There is no-mind in advaita/Buddha state. I am quoting Minor Upanishads which are not authoritative ,just like how Hare Krishna quote extensively about Krishna from Bhagavata Purana which is not even a Shruti.
The advaita vedanta ,divides the reality into three levels:
1.The transcendental or the
Pāramārthika level in which Brahman is the only reality and nothing else;Here the small drop jiva homogeneously merges with the infinite ocean (Brahman).What now exist is Brahman(ocean) alone.--Superconscious Nirvikalpa state
2.The pragmatic or the
Vyāvahārika level in which both Jiva (living creatures or individual souls) and Iswara are true; here, the material world is also true, and,----Waking State till Savikalpa Samadhi
3.The apparent or the
Prāthibhāsika level in which material world reality is actually false, like illusion of a snake over a rope or a dream.--Dream state
So,Advaita is true in paramarthika state not in vyavaharika level.In this state I am god ,you are god ,and all is god.There is only god ,which is one without a second.So,the statement :Aham Brahmasmi is not hanging in the air.Sarvam edam(all this) Brahman is true.
All these staes have been explained in the All these states have been explained in the
Gaudapada Karika.
Moreover world is true in Vyāvahārika level only .The world is not totally untrue.It is true in phenomenal sense and untrue in paramartika sense.
I have few Questions to ask for those "maya" is a crap and world is absolutely true.
1.Why is the " true" world not seen in the dream state ?
2.Why there is no creation-creator duality in the dream state?
3.Question to Dvaitins:If God is omnipresent,then how can jiva be completely different from Paramatma?
Their concept of Buddhism is Juvenile to say the least :
Read the Heart Sutra:
Sariputra, form is emptiness and the very emptiness is form; emptiness does not differ from form, form does not differ from emptiness; whatever is form, that is emptiness, whatever is emptiness, that is form, the same is true of feelings, perceptions, impulses and consciousness.
Then if we are to take that emptiness itself is an object and look for its essence, again we will find that it is empty of inherent existence. Therefore the Buddha taught the emptiness of emptiness.
