Argentbear
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Harris wasn't nominated at the DNC? That is news
that your assertion that exercising the freedom to choose who to vote for is somehow damaging to freedom itself is just laughable
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Harris pulls ahead of Trump in Iowa in the 11th hour
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The hope that I hold out is that, all too often, people are different on their own than they are in groups. It takes an angry crowd to lynch a young black man, But I know that many in those mobs would not have truly wished to do something so heinous if just left to their own devices. Sometimes following the mob ends up leading one to make bad decisions, just because everyone else thinks it's a good idea. The bandwagon effect is a cognitive bias where people adopt certain behaviors, styles, or attitudes simply because others are doing so.
When a reporter is interviewing people at a Trump rally, with their friends and neighbors in the vicinity, the crowd effect still has a hold, but I've seen the doubt on their faces when confronted with an uncomfortable truth, and I'm willing to bet that later, in the privacy of their own thoughts, they wonder at themselves.
It's that which convinces me that some meaningful number of Republicans will, when they are in the privacy of the polling booth, choose a more America-friendly option. I know that's a tad too optimistic, but I can't help it, which is why I still predict a Harris win -- a comfortable win.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
no one but the Trump cultists complained about it
no one like trump his first time around either.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
She was selected by the persons who voted for Biden in the primaries to select a candidate at the convention in Chicago.
When Biden released them, they coalesced around Harris.
The only people who seem to have a problem seem to be people like you who don't seem to understand the procedure.
But she was.
Biden dropped out after the primaries, and Harris was hand-picked by Harris to take the torch. You didn't see any prominent Democrats object, but you did see a huge groundswell of support for her candidacy from its inception.
Since primary votes were no longer a thing to decide that, we use assorted proxies to understand how much the people wanted her as her candidate, and how much more they wanted her than the one they voted in for in primaries before she was a candidate.
Those proxies included crowd sizes, the number of first-time voters registering Democratic, the surge of volunteers, the surge in campaign contributions, and the number of Republicans endorsing her candidacy.
The only ones who don't want Kamala are Trump and MAGA. They were caught off guard and had their legs cut off from under them. Liberals, moderates, and moderate conservatives are glad she's there.
But they did. These people enthusiastically voted for Harris in the ways they could once she was proposed by Biden.
And why do you think what the Democrats and their supporters do lawfully is any of MAGA's or your business? They and you have no say in it, and none of you need like any of it.
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Tomef
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What's that about?
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
He never officially entered the race. But whatever.Donald Trump bows out of 2012 US presidential election race | Donald Trump | The Guardian
<p>US mogul formally announces he will not seek the Republican nomination, claiming he is 'not ready to leave the private sector'</p>amp.theguardian.com
Notice he leaves the race. He was not doing well.
A better use for cattails would be for food. They're amazing food plants. The trouble is... how to put this... there's been a lot of consolidation of food production in this country. This homogenization of production disincentivizes innovation and crop diversity. It's one thing to have the once-upon-a-time family farms managing a relatively small amount of acres to add something diverse like native plants for food or fuel; it is a lot harder to convince some absentee industrial ag landowner to do that. Especially today with the investments of equipment and the issues with labor. It's a monstrously complicated issue that I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on - I did a bit of ag studies because it intersects with conservation biology but it is a whole thing in of itself.
Super dumb things -
For a local article:
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For a national article:
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What a load of b******* yeah Biden was not the president Harris would take over that part of the debate here is true , however there is nothing chosen about her being president for the next four years.
You think people are dumb enough that they would miss that caveat?
If I was left wing I would have felt gypped and robbed of my own voice to choose who the next nominee would be considering the dismal performance she had last election. Not even one person wanted her , and now you expect people to think she's the nation's savior princess?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, you wouldn't. Don't give us that. Biden himself dropped out. There was no time for even an actual convention much less primaries Why didn't you tell Trump to agree to postpone the election for a year? Oh wait, he would be in prison for multiple cases if that happened. That was largely what drove him into politics in the first place.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Nobody but MAGA thinks any person being elected to the office of President is any kind of "saviour."
That's cult-think.
If I was left wing I wouldn't give a gnat's fart what you think I should have felt.
And I am left wing.
If you are using cattails to clean up polluted water, I wouldn't recommend using them for food.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well in that case you get what one deserves.
Of course you would. Your mind has been grievance-oriented listening exclusively to and being imprinted by Trump and rightwing indoctrination media. You view life in terms of what you don't like about it and how it cheats you, like the Grinch.
Liberals had a different reaction, didn't they, and that's more cause for sour grapes for you. They've been exulting. They can't contain their enthusiasm and support for Kamala.
This appears to be a bitter pill for you to swallow as Whoville rejoices
Savior? You might call her that.
Incidentally, it's looking like a landslide in the making for Harris. It's not just Iowa. A recent poll found Trump up by only five points in Kansas. Five points in Kansas is meager. In 2020, Donald Trump won the state of Kansas by 15 points: A stupefying poll shows Harris breathing down Trump’s neck in Kansas. Here’s what that means.
She'll also finish off Trump for good with that victory. Once the voting has ended and assuming a Harris' victory is announced, Trump's legal troubles will begin again. He's on bail for three trials (one completed except for sentencing) and will be for a fourth once they get the secret documents indictments reinstated. The beginning of the end for Trump begins this week.
Even if Trump somehow delays the announcement or gets the Supreme Court to take his appeal that he was cheated, once voting is over, claims of election interference end as well. The legal system will be unleashed on him again. Remember judge Mercham, the one of Columbian ancestry whose gag orders Trump defiantly and disrespectfully ignored and whose daughter Trump menaced with stochastic terrorism?
Yeah, that guy. He will be sentencing Trump for his nearly three-dozen felonies (and counting) shortly. You might have forgotten about all of that, but even if Trump has, he's about to get a reality check. How do you expect that to go? Are you expecting probation or community service? The best Trump can hope for is home confinement and an ankle monitor, but I don't think Trump will be sentenced to resort living. I see prison, and the question is whether it's for a slap-on-the wrist four months like Bannon and Navarro got or real time measured in multiples of years.
That's not his only path to prison before year's end. If Trumps comments about shooting Cheney in the face are judged a bail violation in the two pending criminal trials, he can be imprisoned for that. If he tries any post-election shenanigans, he can be picked up for that.
And you know he has zero impulse control, zero judgement, and unlimited rage. Add fear to that when he realizes how things grim things are for him, and you're basically looking at a man whose life will become horrible soon, and he knows it. His terror is palpable, and both Mary Trump and Michael Cohen say that it is his worst fear.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Good thing for the country when Trump wins and is our next president. Fear mongering and the stupid name calling and pathetic attempts at shaming isn't working for the left anymore , and people are finally waking up and seeing through the scam.
Ta ta till the results are in!
Might be a week or more. Hope you are prepared for that.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I have my pina colada and popcorn on standby!
Go Harris! Go Democrats!
I can feel the excitement in the air! Hoping the best for the citizens of the US
I can feel the excitement in the air! Hoping the best for the citizens of the US