Harris with her so called 'black relatives' along with her background of slavers brought into serious question.

[Kathryn]

I think external appearances and skin color are not always accurate indicators of race. In fact, traditional definitions of "race" aren't very scientific anyway. Even designations like "Caucasian" seem to be relegated to the realm of pseudo-science these days. Of course, there's still a historical and social context behind it. It's important to examine and understand that, but there are also those who feel the need to put everyone into neatly defined categories.

I guess I just see it as something that people can self-identify on. In the OP video, we have people combing through birth records of Kamala Harris' ancestors to prove that she's not black (or something along those lines; that part is kind of vague). They're trying to tell us "what" she is. I say let her tell us what she is. She's a politician, so everything she says should be viewed with some skepticism, but if she says "rain is wet," I would believe her.

Of course, she could be a reptilian alien in disguise. No one has broached that possibility yet.

LOL and I totally agree. I wasn't really asking for me or anyone else, just curious about what some people might say.

 

[Kathryn]

Technically true if you ancestor was raped the rapist is also your ancestor, but is this what you have reduced yourself too?

My kids are half European American and half African American. Some of the European ancestors owned slaves and some didn't. Hmmmmm...I wonder...

 

[Pogo]

My kids are half European American and half African American. Some of the European ancestors owned slaves and some didn't. Hmmmmm...I wonder...

What? Whether your kids might owe themselves reparations?
Never mind, I'm not getting into reparations beyond questioning whether getting raped by a slave owner while a slave makes you a slave owner.

 

[Kathryn]

What? Whether your kids might owe themselves reparations?
Never mind, I'm not getting into reparations beyond questioning whether getting raped by a slave owner while a slave makes you a slave owner.

There's no indication that happened. But besides all that, I willingly slept with their African American dad at least four times. LOL Oh and though I am European American, I never owned any slaves, and wouldn't for that matter.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, you should tell us who is on it and what they claim according to you and then we will consider whether it is worth investing our time.
Or are you one of those who watches every flat earth video to see who is making what claims.

The fact it exists is not a reason to spend our finite time on a half hour video if the presenter is unwilling to tell us why an extraordinary claim should even be considered.

I posted the video for people to watch.


The fact that you don't want to watch the video speaks volumes on your laziness and unwillingness to challenge what was put forth in this thread. Obviously you're just here to troll even though the video itself has enough information and my own commentary underneath asking what people think of it.

if you don't like it , go to another thread and leave the rest to people who are actually willing to contest the video.

 

[Pogo]

I posted the video for people to watch.


The fact that you don't want to watch the video speaks volumes on your laziness and unwillingness to challenge what was put forth in this thread. Obviously you're just here to troll even though the video itself has enough information and my own commentary underneath asking what people think of it.

if you don't like it , go to another thread and leave the rest to people who are actually willing to contest the video.

No, as everybody is telling you, posting a video and expecting us to watch it without an exterior reason is absolutely ridiculous on a written forum.

Seriously,

Watch this, it is less than two hours but there are people in it saying things you should think about, or are you just lazy?
Triumph des willens.

 

[Argentbear]

It's not hateful garbage at all if they are telling the truth.

You should watch it just for a second just to see who the people are making the claims. Hint: they are definitely not white people.

but since we know it's not true that makes it.....what does it make it again? Oh yes hateful garbage.

 

[Twilight Hue]

but since we know it's not true that makes it.....what does it make it again? Oh yes hateful garbage.

Well then point out why it isn't true than just saying.. "hateful garbage '.

It's pretty obvious there are people out there who say it is true.

So who is right?

 

[fantome profane]

I think external appearances and skin color are not always accurate indicators of race. In fact, traditional definitions of "race" aren't very scientific anyway.

This is what I have been trying, and failing, to explain on this board for years (decades if I am being honest). Whether a person is "Black" (for example) has very little to do with genetics and nothing to do with "blood" (blood is usually red among humans).

It is a cultural concept. If you want to determine whether someone is Black (or White or any other cultural concept of race), you need to ask questions along the lines of "do they consider themselves Black" and "does the society they live in consider them Black?", and other questions like that.

A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and be considered Black. A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and not be considered Black. A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and be considered "mixed race". The reason you can be such inconsistencies is because race, as we are using the term here, is a cultural concept, not a scientific one. It depends on the culture, not the biology.

A funny thing about this debate about whether Harris is Black or Indian, or mixed, is that there are places in the world where being Indian makes you Black.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is what I have been trying, and failing, to explain on this board for years (decades if I am being honest). Whether a person is "Black" (for example) has very little to do with genetics and nothing to do with "blood" (blood is usually red among humans).

It is a cultural concept. If you want to determine whether someone is Black (or White or any other cultural concept of race), you need to ask questions along the lines of "do they consider themselves Black" and "does the society they live in consider them Black?", and other questions like that.

A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and be considered Black. A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and not be considered Black. A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and be considered "mixed race". The reason you can be such inconsistencies is because race, as we are using the term here, is a cultural concept, not a scientific one. It depends on the culture, not the biology.

A funny thing about this debate about whether Harris is Black or Indian, or mixed, is that there are places in the world where being Indian makes you Black.

The important thing for Magas is to use any
nontroversy to repeatedly inform the racist
elements that she's black. The actual content
of their arguments is irrelevant.

 

[Argentbear]

Well then point out why it isn't true than just saying.. "hateful garbage '.

It's pretty obvious there are people out there who say it is true.

So who is right?

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[Twilight Hue]

The important thing for Magas is to use any
nontroversy to repeatedly inform the racist
elements that she's black. The actual content
of their arguments is irrelevant.

Of course it's best in the left wings interest to keep people in their categories of color and to keep reminding people day in and day out what color they are. Without having the needed victimhood among their chosen and well defined categories and classes of specially selected people , the modern day Democrat party would just fall apart and they can't use the word racist anymore to discourage and guilt people from saying things they don't agree with if they can't censor them first.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This is what I have been trying, and failing, to explain on this board for years (decades if I am being honest). Whether a person is "Black" (for example) has very little to do with genetics and nothing to do with "blood" (blood is usually red among humans).

It is a cultural concept. If you want to determine whether someone is Black (or White or any other cultural concept of race), you need to ask questions along the lines of "do they consider themselves Black" and "does the society they live in consider them Black?", and other questions like that.

A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and be considered Black. A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and not be considered Black. A person can have one Black and one non-Black parent and be considered "mixed race". The reason you can be such inconsistencies is because race, as we are using the term here, is a cultural concept, not a scientific one. It depends on the culture, not the biology.

A funny thing about this debate about whether Harris is Black or Indian, or mixed, is that there are places in the world where being Indian makes you Black.

Jamaica is essentially a plantation Island, and the diversity of races there is quite extensive due to their long history of slavers and those they enslaved. At least that part pretty much describes Harris's heritage within a family history of wealthy slave masters from what I got out of the video as well as other sources.

I came across sources were Harris is described to be pretty much Tamil.

 

[fantome profane]

Jamaica is essentially a plantation Island, and the diversity of races there is quite extensive due to their long history of slavers and those they enslaved. At least that part's pretty much Harris's heritage within a family history of slave masters from what I got out of the video as well as other sources.

And because of your culture, that matters to you. Because it is a cultural concept.

 

[Kathryn]

And because of your culture, that matters to you. Because it is a cultural concept.

I think it matters to you too.

 

[QuestioningMind]

How does anyone explain this?

I watched it. What do you need explained to you?

 

[fantome profane]

I think it matters to you too.

Maybe it does. But I am also a product of my culture.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I watched it. What do you need explained to you?

With the kind of evidence presented by the video creators, Harris herself is strangely quiet about all this stuff. I'm pretty sure she knows what people are saying about her and if all this is not true then why isn't Harris suing them?

 

[QuestioningMind]

With the kind of evidence presented by the video creators, Harris herself is strangely quiet about all this stuff. I'm pretty sure she knows what people are saying about her and if all this is not true then why isn't Harris suing them?

Why would she waste time responding to obvious b.s.? She's busy running for president. If she took the time to sue every Republican who spoke obvious lies about her she'd have no time to campaign. It's hard to believe that you're actually confused by any of this.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think it matters to you too.

That part is woefully obvious.