Harris with her so called 'black relatives' along with her background of slavers brought into serious question.

[Quagmire]

I'm not sure what the controversy is.

Kamala's mother was Indian, her father is Jamaican with African ancestry.

That makes her claim to "black" as strong as most African Americans claim to "black".

The thing that caught my eye though was this accusation that she presented a phony picture of herself standing next to her grandmother as proof of her African ancestry.

Her grandmother died before Harris was born.

This charge is being made in several places around the internet and so far I'm not seeing any pushback.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Interesting, no one I know calls anyone who is not from India an "Indian." They call Native Americans Native Americans and people from India Indians. They also call black people from the US "African Americans," as do I (all of these).

Even my oldest neices and nephews grew up learning Native Americans are called Indians. The habit has stuck with me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm not sure what the controversy is.

Kamala's mother was Indian, her father is Jamaican with African ancestry.

That makes her claim to "black" as strong as most African Americans claim to "black".

The thing that caught my eye though was this accusation that she presented a phony picture of herself standing next to her grandmother as proof of her African ancestry.

Her grandmother died before Harris was born.

This charge is being made in several places around the internet and so far I'm not seeing any pushback.

The internet usually doesn't see any push back because it's a lot of echo chambers and insulated communities affirming each other's beliefs.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Wasn't Candace Owens kicked from the daily wire for her antisemitism recently?

She got fired because Ben Shapiro is a rabid Zionist (who has said some very awful things about Arabs and Muslims, but that's okay, apparently) and she was questioning Israel too much. It wasn't a good thing she was fired, at the very least because it was proving her right. There's a split in the right at the moment over Zionism and if you can support Israel and still be America First. (Something similar is happening on the left, as well, as Briahna Joy Gray was fired from the Rising for making Zionists angry a few months ago.)

"The tension between the two stars of the conservative far-right began to play out online in mid-November, when Shapiro called out the “faux sophistication” Owens showed about the Israel-Hamas conflict; he then called her “disreputable” and “ridiculous.” She has been ramping up her criticism of the Israeli military campaign in Gaza, where the Health Ministry in the Hamas-run region says the death toll is at around 32,000 since the war began.

Owens, the former communications director for conservative PAC Turning Point USA, who is never one to back down from a fight, replied with Matthew 5:11, a verse from the Bible, and added, “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”

Shapiro replied to the host, “Candace, if you feel that taking money from The Daily Wire somehow comes between you and God, by all means quit.”"

Candace Owens Out at ‘The Daily Wire’ After Fighting With Co-Founder Over Israel-Hamas War

The conservative talking head rose to fame with Turning Points USA and through a seemingly unlikely friendship with Kanye West before joining the far-right media company in 2020.

www.google.com

As for West, most of what he was saying ended up being true but he's also a drug addict who behaves oddly and makes bizarre statements at times, which doesn't help him at all. But he still drops a lot of tea about what goes on in the entertainment industry and he is far from the only one to talk about these things.

Basically there's more to this than meets the eye.

 

[Kathryn]

Even my oldest neices and nephews grew up learning Native Americans are called Indians. The habit has stuck with me.

Oh not me.

 

[crossfire]

Hope you get through it well and back on your feet

Thanks

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why should someone explain it for you when you won't even explain what it's about?
Her father is Jamaican, her mother Indian. This means she is both Indian and black. The racist garbage trying to say she's not is just that.

The video has all the information you need so I'm not going to make a complete transcript of what is said in it. If you don't want to watch it for its contents , then leave this thread and go to another one.

This is for those who want to contest whatever point or points are made.

 

[Revoltingest]

I guess I'm not clear on the part where they're claiming that she didn't identify as black until the past few years. I don't know if that's true or not or whether it even matters at all. Did she identify as black 20-30 years ago? I can't say, and I'm not sure if the makers of this video even know for certain.

They're not offering anything substantive
that I've yet seen. So it goes with Trumpists.

 

[crossfire]

I'm not sure what the controversy is.

Kamala's mother was Indian, her father is Jamaican with African ancestry.

That makes her claim to "black" as strong as most African Americans claim to "black".

The thing that caught my eye though was this accusation that she presented a phony picture of herself standing next to her grandmother as proof of her African ancestry.

Her grandmother died before Harris was born.

This charge is being made in several places around the internet and so far I'm not seeing any pushback.

She got the death certificate for the wrong person. Beryl Christie Harris (the person in the picture) died 3 September, 1995 from sepsis in St Anne Parrish.

 

[Revoltingest]

Interesting, no one I know calls anyone who is not from India an "Indian." They call Native Americans Native Americans and people from India Indians. They also call black people from the US "African Americans," as do I (all of these).

In my experience, Amerindians / Aboriginal Americans / Native
Americans / First Nation People are all commonly called "Indians".

 

[Kathryn]

In my experience, Amerindians / Aboriginal Americans / Native
Americans / First Nation People are all commonly called "Indians".

Maybe by you but not by me. I call them Native Americans. i may call them something else before it's all said and done. I've changed what I've called black, Afro, African Americans. etc. over and over again.

Speaking of which, just out of curiosity, wondering what you'd call my granddaughter who is 3/4 white but not all white, and she doesn't look all white.

 

[fantome profane]

But see....if you don't watch his video, then he wins.

I am quite happy to let him win, I am not playing his game.

 

[Argentbear]

No I did not make any claim. I would figure "so called" and "brought into serious question" would be an indicator of that, but of course in your world that probably means a claim to you. .

"so called" indicates that you think her relatives are somehow not her relatives. "brought into serious question" is a claim that there is a serious question about the subject.

Man up and own your posts

 

[Revoltingest]

Speaking of which, just out of curiosity, wondering what you'd call my granddaughter who is 3/4 white but not all white, and she doesn't look all white.

I'd call her by her given name.

 

[Argentbear]

I guess I'm not clear on the part where they're claiming that she didn't identify as black until the past few years. I don't know if that's true or not or whether it even matters at all. Did she identify as black 20-30 years ago? I can't say, and I'm not sure if the makers of this video even know for certain.

"I'm Black, and I'm proud of being Black, and I was born Black, I will die Black," Harris The Breakfast Club radio show in 2019.

In a 2016 feature for The New York Times Magazine, Harris talked about her mother’s “choice of community” for her and her younger sister Maya after her parents divorced and referred to herself as a Black person: “She had two black babies, and she raised them to be two black women.”

In a 2012 interview hosted by digital news organization The Wrap, Harris, then California Attorney General, referred to herself as both African American and Asian American.

“What I suggest we do as African American is own this issue in law enforcement and then define it in the way that works for us because it is a myth, to say that African Americans don’t want law enforcement.” At a 2006 panel of emerging Black leaders at a conference Harris, then San Francisco District Attorney, referred to herself as African American

Harris graduated from Howard University, opens new tab, one of the country’s most esteemed Historically Black Colleges and Universities, in 1986

 

[Quagmire]

She got the death certificate for the wrong person. Beryl Christie Harris (the person in the picture) died 3 September, 1995 from sepsis in St Anne Parrish.

Where are you getting this from?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The video has all the information you need so I'm not going to make a complete transcript of what is said in it. If you don't want to watch it for its contents , then leave this thread and go to another one.

This is for those who want to contest whatever point or points are made.

I didn't ask for a complete transcript, did I?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Man up and own your posts

Good luck.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh not me.

Even some Natives refer to themselves as American Indians.
Or black. Pretty much every black person I've know and most whites and most browns say black.

 

[anotherneil]

I thought Candace Owens was "cancelled" - Matt Am-I-Racist? Walsh style (I don't necessarily mean by him specifically, though).