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Harsh Truth: If Intelligent Design is Untestable . . .

leibowde84

Veteran Member
When you say subjective, you mean that emotions can be objectively measured in the brain with a brainscanner.
No, I don't think that. I don't discount any possibilities, as that would be incredibly stubborn / foolish. Can you stop being so dishonest about my claims. I never stated that I thought this to be true.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
No, I don't think that. I don't discount any possibilities, as that would be incredibly stubborn / foolish. Can you stop being so dishonest about my claims. I never stated that I thought this to be true.

You just rejected regarding the existence of the spirit as a matter of opinion, this means you also do not regard the existence of emotions as a matter of opinion.

Again, you just say arbitrary things to support your habit of knowledge of good and evil.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
You just rejected regarding the existence of the spirit as a matter of opinion, this means you also do not regard the existence of emotions as a matter of opinion.

Again, you just say arbitrary things to support your habit of knowledge of good and evil.
I never said that I don't believe in the soul. You are, yet again, being dishonest, as you are just making that up. If you disagree, all you have to do is cite my comment. Short of that ... accept defeat.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
I never said that I don't believe in the soul. You are, yet again, being dishonest, as you are just making that up. If you disagree, all you have to do is cite my comment. Short of that ... accept defeat.

You wrote:
"They stopped using the terms "spirit" and "soul" because they are ill-defined, vague terms. Human beings have found more appropriate/specific terms to describe mental processes. Vague terms don't do much good when trying to better understand how organisms and life exists in reality."
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
You wrote:
"They stopped using the terms "spirit" and "soul" because they are ill-defined, vague terms. Human beings have found more appropriate/specific terms to describe mental processes. Vague terms don't do much good when trying to better understand how organisms and life exists in reality."
You proved my point. You are just reading things into my comments that aren't there. There is nothing here suggesting that I don't believe in the spirit or soul. Just that more specific terms have been developed and used to describe mental processes. That's all. You are again blatantly lying.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
There is nothing much in it beyond acknowledging the fact that children are the offspring of their parents, descendancy. The pope still correctly identifies creation has how all beings originate, not evolution.
Now I see. You don't know what evolution is, as it says absolutely nothing about the origin of life.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
You proved my point. You are just reading things into my comments that aren't there. There is nothing here suggesting that I don't believe in the spirit or soul. Just that more specific terms have been developed and used to describe mental processes. That's all. You are again blatantly lying.

Obviously the terms vague, and better, would indicate that you discarded belief in the soul for something else.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
There is nothing much in it beyond acknowledging the fact that children are the offspring of their parents, descendancy. The pope still correctly identifies creation has how all beings originate, not evolution.
Evolution only speaks to how organisms adapted over billions of years. Nothing about how life began initially.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Obviously the terms vague, and better, would indicate that you discarded belief in the soul for something else.
Nope. Again being dishonest or just illogical. A term being vague in no way means that something doesn't exist. I even provided the meaning of the term vague for your reference.
 
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