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Harsh Truth: If Intelligent Design is Untestable . . .

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
So when you capitalize the word "god" it magically changes the meaning?

Capitalising the word "God" points out the real one. (John 17:3) So it doesn't change the meaning of the word, it just makes a differentiation between a true one and a fake.

Changing fiction into fact is something that evolutionists do all the time.....isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

The dictionary defines what a theory is. (Look it up) Making it "scientific" doesn't alter the meaning of that word at all except in the minds of those who support the ones who changed it. :)
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Capitalising the word "God" points out the real one. (John 17:3) So it doesn't change the meaning of the word, it just makes a differentiation between a true one and a fake.

Changing fiction into fact is something that evolutionists do all the time.....isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

The dictionary defines what a theory is. (Look it up) Making it "scientific" doesn't alter the meaning of that word at all except in the minds of those who support the ones who changed it. :)
theory
[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee] /ˈθi ə ri, ˈθɪər i/
noun, plural theories.
1.
a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:
Einstein's theory of relativity.
Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.
2.
a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate.
Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.
3.
Mathematics. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject:
number theory.
4.
the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice:
music theory.
5.
a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles:
conflicting theories of how children best learn to read.
6.
contemplation or speculation:
the theory that there is life on other planets.
7.
guess or conjecture:
My theory is that he never stops to think words have consequences.
Theory | Define Theory at Dictionary.com

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Hmmm, what does #1 say?
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
theory
[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee] /ˈθi ə ri, ˈθɪər i/
noun, plural theories.
1.
a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:
Einstein's theory of relativity.
Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.
2.
a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate.
Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.
3.
Mathematics. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject:
number theory.
4.
the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice:
music theory.
5.
a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles:
conflicting theories of how children best learn to read.
6.
contemplation or speculation:
the theory that there is life on other planets.
7.
guess or conjecture:
My theory is that he never stops to think words have consequences.
Theory | Define Theory at Dictionary.com

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Hmmm, what does #1 say?

Guess it depends on the dictionary.....:D

theory
ˈθɪəri/
noun
  1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
    "Darwin's theory of evolution"
    synonyms: hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presumption, presupposition, notion, guess, hunch, feeling, suspicion;

 

McBell

Unbound
Capitalising the word "God" points out the real one. (John 17:3) So it doesn't change the meaning of the word, it just makes a differentiation between a true one and a fake.
Really?
So the Flying Speghetti Monstor God...
Look, the capitalized "god, is pointing to the real one, right?

Changing fiction into fact is something that evolutionists do all the time.....isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
Bold empty claim.
But I understand how you are required to lie and be dishonest in order to hold onto your beliefs.

The dictionary defines what a theory is. (Look it up) Making it "scientific" doesn't alter the meaning of that word at all except in the minds of those who support the ones who changed it. :)
Thank you for further proving my "your faith requires to many lies and dishonesty" point.
 

McBell

Unbound
Guess it depends on the dictionary.....:D

theory
ˈθɪəri/
noun
  1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
    "Darwin's theory of evolution"
    synonyms: hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presumption, presupposition, notion, guess, hunch, feeling, suspicion;
why are you ashamed of yours?

I mean, Skepticthinker revealed which one he is using....
 

McBell

Unbound
It's the first one that comes up when you Google "definition of theory"...Try it.
Going with the first thing you agree with is not research, it is ratification.
One would think with all the changes made to your preferred Bible, you would understand that.
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
Really?
So the Flying Speghetti Monstor God...
Look, the capitalized "god, is pointing to the real one, right?


Bold empty claim.
But I understand how you are required to lie and be dishonest in order to hold onto your beliefs.


Thank you for further proving my "your faith requires to many lies and dishonesty" point.

And thank you for staying true to form....:rolleyes:

It is noted that you seem to excel at slander Mestemia. Do you do this to everyone, or just me?
Accusing people of being liars and dishonest seems to be a favorite pastime for you. The dishonesty behind your own posts is quite revealing though. You twist what people say to promote your views....go for it. You don't have to answer to me. :) Shooting the messenger doesn't make the message go away.
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
Going with the first thing you agree with is not research, it is ratification.
One would think with all the changes made to your preferred Bible, you would understand that.
LOL....I didn't have to search for one that agreed with what I believe....that isn't research.....that is just plain searching. It was just the first one that came up.
 

Popcorn

What is it?
So when you capitalize the word "god" it magically changes the meaning?

Well now that is a good question! What does that word mean, anyways? When I use it, lowercase "god", it's very generalized. With it capitalized "God", it's more specific. It's kind of a pronoun because God has a name, but there's more that can be said about The Name than actually saying it. The JW's really get into this one, though I'm not sure if Jehovah is a correct translation of yod-hey-vav-hey, considering that God is older than the English language, certainly older than the letter J.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
And thank you for staying true to form....:rolleyes:

It is noted that you seem to excel at slander Mestemia. Do you do this to everyone, or just me?
Accusing people of being liars and dishonest seems to be a favorite pastime for you. The dishonesty behind your own posts is quite revealing though. You twist what people say to promote your views....go for it. You don't have to answer to me. :) Shooting the messenger doesn't make the message go away.
You are hardly in a position to challenge anyone's honesty here, your posts are painfully dishonest. If I were Jesus, I would hate to have you as my messenger, you would just make me look like a charlatan.
 

McBell

Unbound
And thank you for staying true to form....:rolleyes:

It is noted that you seem to excel at slander Mestemia. Do you do this to everyone, or just me?
Accusing people of being liars and dishonest seems to be a favorite pastime for you. The dishonesty behind your own posts is quite revealing though. You twist what people say to promote your views....go for it. You don't have to answer to me. :) Shooting the messenger doesn't make the message go away.

ROTFLMAO

Your bold empty threats are still most comical.
If you do not wish to be called a liar, stop lying.
If you wish to stop having your dishonesty pointed out, stop being dishonest.
It really is a simple concept.

Now I shall allow you the last word.

Hopefully you won't waste it with more bold empty threats.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Guess it depends on the dictionary.....:D

theory
ˈθɪəri/
noun
  1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
    "Darwin's theory of evolution"
    synonyms: hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presumption, presupposition, notion, guess, hunch, feeling, suspicion;
When we are talking about science, we use the definition that applies to science. ;)
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
Unless, of course, the definition that applies to science undermines your agenda....

Or the word fails to render the definition you wish to apply. A theory means a theory.....evolution is what some people "believe" took place....it is not a fact however, no matter how you mess with the definition.

Adding the word "scientific" only makes it sound like fact. It is a skewing of the true definition....verbal sleight of hand.
 

McBell

Unbound
Or the word fails to render the definition you wish to apply. A theory means a theory.....evolution is what some people "believe" took place....it is not a fact, however no matter how you mess with the definition.

Adding the word "scientific" only makes it sound like fact. It is a skewing of the true definition....verbal sleight of hand.
If you do not wish to be called a liar, stop lying.
If you wish to stop having your dishonesty pointed out, stop being dishonest.
It really is a simple concept.
 
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