Has any other God claimed to be the only God?

[Chimowowo]

You can nominate me second. I will bring peace, give you richness beyond your wildest dreams, make you immortal, and all the other blah, blah....

In my heaven, I give you 365 beautiful virgins, Samuel Adams flows eternal and you can see all the people who were evil and didn't agree with you burn in hell. on your local television stations.

Now I finally see the benifits to polytheism. :biglaugh:

 

[riot4j]

My first problem here is that you can't conclude it's true just because he says it's true.

The argument is like "there are" many gods(so many people believe in different gods). It wouldn't be certain which is the True God. I know He(The God of Israel) said He is the only one true God and that there is no other. Why would He say it if He is not really the only one. Or why would someone lie for Him(i.e. if someone would say the bible is not true).
The problem may come if some other God claimed that he too is the only one true God, because then there wil be like "many truths".

I can not think of any other god saying he was the only god (maybe Vishnu?).

Who is Vishnu? Would you say more about him?

However you seem to be ignoring all of the polytheistic religions that have multiple gods. Not everyone thinks there is one god.

The thing is if there is only one God who is the true god why worship so many other gods who are not true?(given there is one true God).

I hope you are getting what I wanna say.

 

[Chimowowo]

In my heaven, I will give you all year round Oktoberfest, and all what darkdale gives, and your own universe to be God there. See I will make you God in a little universe of your own. Vote for me :jam:

Now why didn't we start voting for gods sooner.

 

[Bennettresearch]

You are all sooooooooooooo silly.

Can I say something a little serious here? Looking at it objectively, there is only one God. Where the subject goes spinning off is that there is more than one claim to this. Therefore, it is a matter of which religion claims what and of course, theirs is the only one! Mine is better than yours and you will be killed for not believing in MY religion!

Time to do my kibuki dance and pray to the computer God that my computer doesn't crash.

 

[riot4j]

As Michel noted, I was alluding to Shakespear. I meant the god of the New Testament claims so much to be the only god that it comes across as insecurity on His part. So, is He really sure He's the only god, or does He have a lurking suspicion that He might not be the only god?

I think it's more out of the concern than insecurity.How would you feel if you were God wanting the best for your people rtying to lead them in the right direction but the people don't listen to you instead they go after what they think are Gods hoping to get help from there?

 

[Chimowowo]

sorry for the double post, I missed riot4j's reply

...Why would He say it if He is not really the only one. Or why would someone lie for Him...The problem may come if some other God claimed that he too is the only one true God, because then there wil be like "many truths"

What I meant by the problem here, is even with your reiteration, you still are saying that since it was said it, it must be true. That is called blind faith. If you have faith that's fine, I don't want to attack that. It's the part of accepting it just because it's true.

The reason that is generally bad is the answer to the first part of your question...people lie. The do it for all kinds of reasons, like money, power, or fun. But people lie. So it's okay to believe, but I would hope you have more reasons than just because he said so.

Also like other people pointed out why would he have to say he was the true god in the first place? And for any monotheistic religion, by definition, they only have one god, and it is viewed as the true god. So even though they don't say it outright, they are viewed/believed as the one true god.

Who is Vishnu? Would you say more about him?

Vishnu is a god of Hinduism. Not a bad religion. But since you asked, I looked it up, and that is another poly religion. The other main gods are Brahma and Shiva. Just do a google search on Vishnu or Hinduism.

The thing is if there is only one God who is the true god why worship so many other gods who are not true?(given there is one true God)

What you are asking is if you believe that God is the one true God, why believe other Gods...when we assume like you ask that there is one true God...then you don't believe in others.
However if we don't assume that belief in the one true God, then you believe another God is the true God (excluding polytheism) and then you have to find another way to find out who is right.

 

[lilithu]

The argument is like "there are" many gods(so many people believe in different gods). It wouldn't be certain which is the True God. I know He(The God of Israel) said He is the only one true God and that there is no other. Why would He say it if He is not really the only one. Or why would someone lie for Him(i.e. if someone would say the bible is not true).

By your (twisted) logic, I can just as convincingly "prove" that there is/was more than one god. If people believe in lots of gods, then they must all exist. Afterall, why would the other gods lie about their existing if they didn't really exist? Or why would someone lie for them?

Heck, if there is only one god, then why would this one god even need to say that he's the only god? Obviously, he was feeling threatened by all the other gods, so obviously they exist.

 

[Kowalski]

This is the question I want answered. Why? Because if there is no other God who has claimed to be the only one apart from the God in the Bible, The God of Israel, whom also Moslems believe in, then I find that we could conclude that He is the only God as He says and that what he said is true.
Please be truthful in answering the question coz I need know this before I can proceed with my argument.

As far as I know, no God has made any claims, only people have made the claims by putting the words of God into God's mouth. Therfore, the only thing you can conclude, is that which set of people's claims do you wish to believe in.

Cheers

K

 

[greatcalgarian]

In my heaven, I give you 365 beautiful virgins, Samuel Adams flows eternal and you can see all the people who were evil and didn't agree with you burn in hell. on your local television stations.

I presume the beautiful virgins and no handsome virgins? Or what you are giving include both sexes or all sexes?:149:

 

[greatcalgarian]

Actually, in the original OT, only the Jew has one God. Other people may have many other Gods. But for the Jew, their only God is the most powerful.

In the development of Christianity, the concept was borrowed, but in order to spread to the gentiles, the only one God was made into three. The Trinity.

The most siginifcant of my development and growth during this stage is from ONE prior to my Son was born, and TWO during the turmoil period of my developmental stage, and finally transformed into THREE, my present Trinity nature.

On the other hand, careful reading of OT will end up with:

Perhaps I truely have multiple personalities as I was referred to as 'us' while I was mumbling to myself [Gen 3:22] and also planning how to confuse the human being when they worked hard trying to reach us by building the Babel tower [Gen 11:7],

As far as I can understand the English word 'us', means more than one :jiggy:

 

[Bennettresearch]

OMG, a schizoid God?

 

[Jaymes]

The argument is like "there are" many gods(so many people believe in different gods). It wouldn't be certain which is the True God. I know He(The God of Israel) said He is the only one true God and that there is no other. Why would He say it if He is not really the only one. Or why would someone lie for Him(i.e. if someone would say the bible is not true).

That's called the ipse dixit fallacy, I believe.

 

[Circle_One]

Why would He say it if He is not really the only one. Or why would someone lie for Him

I just thought I'd let you all know that I am infact the one and only true God (or Goddess for that matter). All the other Gods you worship are fake, since I am the only God there really is. And, since I am infact, the only God, and I say that I am the only God, then that means, logically, that what I'm saying is the truth. So now, you must all bow down to me.

Anyone wanna vouch for me?

 

[lilithu]

I just thought I'd let you all know that I am infact the one and only true God (or Goddess for that matter). All the other Gods you worship are fake, since I am the only God there really is. And, since I am infact, the only God, and I say that I am the only God, then that means, logically, that what I'm saying is the truth. So now, you must all bow down to me.

Anyone wanna vouch for me?

All Hail Circle_One!!
I would lay an offering of frubals at your altar if the frubal gods were not vociferously disagreeing with you at this moment. Since you are the one true god, could you maybe fix that please?

 

[lilithu]

As far as I can understand the English word 'us', means more than one :jiggy:

"Let us make man in our image."
One of the Hebrew names for God, "Elohim," is plural.

 

[greatcalgarian]

"Let us make man in our image."
One of the Hebrew names for God, "Elohim," is plural.

Does that mean in the OT (original Hebrew version) YW is more than one sometimes (plural), and sometime only one (singular)?:banghead3

 

[lilithu]

Does that mean in the OT (original Hebrew version) YW is more than one sometimes (plural), and sometime only one (singular)?:banghead3

lol! Why is that a problem? Isn't the Christian trinity similar in that respect? Plural and singular at the same time. Just to throw more flies into the ointment, in Hebrew the Spirit of God (ie - the Holy Spirit), Ruach, is feminine. I love that!! Why would God be only male or only female, only singular or only plural?

addendum:
Oops, have to be be clear. Yahweh is not sometimes plural and sometimes singular. Yahweh is singular. Elohim is plural. But both Yahweh and Elohim refer to God.

 

[greatcalgarian]

lol! Why is that a problem? Isn't the Christian trinity similar in that respect? Plural and singular at the same time. Just to throw more flies into the ointment, in Hebrew the Spirit of God (ie - the Holy Spirit), Ruach, is feminine. I love that!! Why would God be only male or only female, only singular or only plural?

addendum:
Oops, have to be be clear. Yahweh is not sometimes plural and sometimes singular. Yahweh is singular. Elohim is plural. But both Yahweh and Elohim refer to God.

So God is a phase shifter, sometimes appeared as three, sometimes appeared as one? And this entity also changes the sex as will? The concept is too confusing for me

 

[cardero]

Has any other God claimed to be the only God?Has any other God claimed to be the only God?
Some have tried but are usually exposed when having to live up to the aspects of a Supreme Being. Many others do not even try, no other entity wants the responsibility that goes with the title.

 

[lilithu]

So God is a phase shifter, sometimes appeared as three, sometimes appeared as one? And this entity also changes the sex as will? The concept is too confusing for me

I'm just telling you what's in the Hebrew language that gets lost when you translate to English. You can interpret it however you want. I, however, would not call God a "phase-shifter" who changes sex at will. That still envisions God as a being like us, who has a specified gender. I would say that God is both male and female and both singular and plural. I would say that it's equally valid to refer to God as either male or female and either singular or plural. And in the Hebrew bible, this multiplicity is reflected in its writings whereas in the Christian bible, our understanding of God has been limited to singular maleness.