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Has anyone ever confronted a jinn ?

Rapha

Active Member
If you have been face to face with a jinn, what formation did it take as in shade, blue skin entity, 30ft tall giant, smokeless flame or wraith ?

What language did it commune with like native tongue, Latin (Shaytan jinn only), telepathy or other ?

Did it ever describe what their world (the Realm) is like ?

Do they go under aliases or their true identities ?
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
The jinns are what is called "demons" in the west. If they enter a body they can talk to you, that's all.

I guess you have heard or watched movies like the "Exorcist", i just saw the trailer but it's more or less something like that sometimes.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I was under the impression that Djinns were more like spirits, and that they were not always or necessarily evil. Isn't it said that some do in fact follow Islam?
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
I was under the impression that Djinns were more like spirits, and that they were not always or necessarily evil. Isn't it said that some do in fact follow Islam?

True, some are good some are bad, some follow a religion some don't. You can call them "spirit" which is more correct than demons.
What people say spirits, demons or ghosts we just call it djinns.
 

Rapha

Active Member
The jinns are what is called "demons" in the west. If they enter a body they can talk to you, that's all.
Thanks for your input. If a person is already occupied by a jinn and the jinn name is known then can the jinn be expected to answer certain question whilst the host sleeps and dreams ?

In other words, would a jinn willingly show themselves to the main spirit that controls the host body in a dream ?

So some don't follow a religion. Interesting.
 

mojtaba

Active Member
Thanks for your input. If a person is already occupied by a jinn and the jinn name is known then can the jinn be expected to answer certain question whilst the host sleeps and dreams ?

In other words, would a jinn willingly show themselves to the main spirit that controls the host body in a dream ?
Yes. This could occur.
Almost such communications are satanic.
Controling of a human is not lawful for Jinns. Likewise, our controling of Jinns is unlawful.

But unfortunately, there are some individuals among humans or Jinns that do such unlawful controling.

Almost, Jinns ask from whom is spoken to, doing of unlawful doings and then, they say some information to them.
For faithful humans, their requests may be lawful firstly. After some lawful requests, they ask unlwaful doings.

The end of such communications are not a good end.

But it is possible for some God's saints to have a lawful controling, for example, control of Jinns by Prophet Solomon(peace be upon our Prophet and his pure progeny and him).
 
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mojtaba

Active Member
Holy Qur'a, 6:128

On the day He will gather them all together, [He will say,] ‘O company of jinn! You claimed many of the humans.’ Their friends from among the humans will say, ‘Our Lord, we used each other, and we completed our term which You had appointed for us.’ He will say, ‘The Fire is your abode, to remain in it forever, except what Allah may wish.’ Indeed your Lord is all-wise, all-knowing.

[34:12]
And for Solomon [We subjected] the wind: its morning course was a month’s journey and its evening course was a month’s journey. We made a fount of [molten] copper flow for him, and [We placed at his service] some of the jinn who would work for him by the permission of his Lord, and if any of them swerved from Our command, We would make him taste the punishment of the Blaze.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Djinn in my opinion are aspects of our unconscious mind and not external spirits at all (although in practice you can treat them as either.) By evoking or invoking Djinn, we are connecting with a part of our unconsciousness that is an expert in its own area.
 

Rapha

Active Member
By evoking or invoking Djinn, we are connecting with a part of our unconsciousness that is an expert in its own area.
Sounds similar to a 'split personality' or in terms of MKUltra, an 'alter'.

Would that still be true though if the main host spirit has an Out-of-body-experience and notices the claws of a wraith / shade hooked to their left shoulder blade ?
 

Rapha

Active Member
Almost such communications are satanic.

The end of such communications are not a good end.

But it is possible for some God's saints to have a lawful controlling, for example, control of Jinns by Prophet Solomon(peace be upon our Prophet and his pure progeny and him).
Well for many years i along with 70 million others have been seeing the 11:11 Wake up call numbers.

Apparently, the jinn in me allowed there to be contact with a repented fallen watcher who stated that the numbers actually originate from a Knowledge Base in the spiritual world.

Not only that, but Numerology + Sacred Geometry + Sound (frequency) = Levitation + Divination.
This is apparently how UFO's fly. So if the djinn was evil then i am sure it would have stopped me from typing this info.

On another forum, a person might be about to try to banish the jinn seeing that its identity is 'Kilash'. So it will be interesting to see how that experiment goes.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Well for many years i along with 70 million others have been seeing the 11:11 Wake up call numbers.

Apparently, the jinn in me allowed there to be contact with a repented fallen watcher who stated that the numbers actually originate from a Knowledge Base in the spiritual world.

Not only that, but Numerology + Sacred Geometry + Sound (frequency) = Levitation + Divination.
This is apparently how UFO's fly. So if the djinn was evil then i am sure it would have stopped me from typing this info.

On another forum, a person might be about to try to banish the jinn seeing that its identity is 'Kilash'. So it will be interesting to see how that experiment goes.

In Islam we can't be in contact with them to do such things as numerology, divination etc
This is because we should only rely to God and no one else.

As for the question about the contact with them, what we know in Islam is most of time they are liars but they can sometimes say the thruth and give you their identities and they can speak with telepathy.
Maybe someone who practices magic can answer better to those questions.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Sounds similar to a 'split personality' or in terms of MKUltra, an 'alter'.

Would that still be true though if the main host spirit has an Out-of-body-experience and notices the claws of a wraith / shade hooked to their left shoulder blade ?
I like to think it sounds more along the lines of Jungian Archetypes and Platonic First Forms . . . but hey, you is what you Is!

What is a 'main host spirit' ?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
The jinns are what is called "demons" in the west. If they enter a body they can talk to you, that's all.

I guess you have heard or watched movies like the "Exorcist", i just saw the trailer but it's more or less something like that sometimes.
I'm very curious how prevalent a belief in Jinn is in the Muslim world. Any approximation of how many believe it them?
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
I'm very curious how prevalent a belief in Jinn is in the Muslim world. Any approximation of how many believe it them?

I think the majority believe in it as we believe first of all that satan himself is a djinn and as there's also many things about them in the Quran.
Maybe muslims who have never read the Quran may not believe in them.
And the muslims believing in the existance of the djinns don't necessarly believe that a contact with humans is possible.
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There is an entire chapter about them in the Quran, of course plus Satan who is a jinn himself.

Say, [O Muhammad], "It has been revealed to me that a group of the jinn listened and said, 'Indeed, we have heard an amazing Qur'an.

It guides to the right course, and we have believed in it. And we will never associate with our Lord anyone.

And [it teaches] that exalted is the nobleness of our Lord; He has not taken a wife or a son

And that our foolish one has been saying about Allah an excessive transgression.

And we had thought that mankind and the jinn would never speak about Allah a lie.

And there were men from mankind who sought refuge in men from the jinn, so they [only] increased them in burden.

And they had thought, as you thought, that Allah would never send anyone [as a messenger].

And we have sought [to reach] the heaven but found it filled with powerful guards and burning flames.

And we used to sit therein in positions for hearing, but whoever listens now will find a burning flame lying in wait for him.

And we do not know [therefore] whether evil is intended for those on earth or whether their Lord intends for them a right course.

And among us are the righteous, and among us are [others] not so; we were [of] divided ways.

And we have become certain that we will never cause failure to Allah upon earth, nor can we escape Him by flight.

And when we heard the guidance, we believed in it. And whoever believes in his Lord will not fear deprivation or burden.

And among us are Muslims [in submission to Allah ], and among us are the unjust. And whoever has become Muslim - those have sought out the right course.

But as for the unjust, they will be, for Hell, firewood.

And [ Allah revealed] that if they had remained straight on the way, We would have given them abundant provision.

So We might test them therein. And whoever turns away from the remembrance of his Lord He will put into arduous punishment.


(Quran 72:1-17)
http://legacy.quran.com/72
 
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TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well for many years i along with 70 million others have been seeing the 11:11 Wake up call numbers.

Apparently, the jinn in me allowed there to be contact with a repented fallen watcher who stated that the numbers actually originate from a Knowledge Base in the spiritual world.

Not only that, but Numerology + Sacred Geometry + Sound (frequency) = Levitation + Divination.
This is apparently how UFO's fly. So if the djinn was evil then i am sure it would have stopped me from typing this info.

On another forum, a person might be about to try to banish the jinn seeing that its identity is 'Kilash'. So it will be interesting to see how that experiment goes.

Jinn can't prevent you from doing anything unless there is a magic involved with the help of a human then they might have a strong influence on some of your actions or physical/mental health.

As for jinn on their own--within you--can only influence but can't really force you to do anything. To try how your jinn will feel, try to open listen to this in youtube and let me know what happen or how you will feel.

You also have to read along the english subtitle as well to understand what the verses are talking about.

 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
The "test" proposed by @TashaN to listen surat "Al Baqara" (The cow, surat 2) is a good one.
An Imam once told me it's the more "heavy" (difficult) surah to listen to the djinns.
Also listening to the "verse of the Throne" (ayat el Kursy) only during a long time- 30 min minimum- can have an effect (verse 255 of surat El Baqara), as it is the more powerful verse of the Quran.

 
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