Notanumber
A Free Man
How long will it be before Bill 62 is reversed?
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Has Quebec bitten off more than it can chew?
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Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
Western countries and localities should not have to kowtow to Muslim dress-codes. If they cannot abide by this, they are welcome to ship out.
Certain standards must be observed, whether for security reasons, or for not offending with excessive nudity, etc.
There really should not need much discussion on the issue. Frankly, their female dress code offends me in so many ways. Still, it is not about my likes and dislikes, but about what our societies agree is permitted or dispermitted.
Wirey
Fartist
It's not legal under the Canadian constitution and will be struck down on first challenge. Essentially the Charter states that a law that causes a problem based on a religious ground must prove that the gain to society far outweighs the burden on the individual, and 62 doesn't pass the smell test. People who wear burkhas already remove them for things like driver's licence pictures, government interviews, passports, and the like. This law would require them to remove it to use a bus pass when boarding a city transit bus. It makes no material difference to security, and is just more hate-mongering from the intolerance capital of Canada, Quebec (said the Albertan). Anti-religious laws crafted by a group who assemble beneath a cross with a dead Jew on it should be suspect to begin with. I give 62 a week.
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Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
There are two kinds of people.
1. When you move to a foreign country, you assimilate and respect your new home.
2. You move to a foreign country, and wish to have absolutely no connection to your new home, so you attempt to force your way of life onto your hosts.
Unfortunately, Muslims, generally follow number 2. But then it makes sense, their religion requires them to conquer, not assimilate.
I lived in Saudi Arabia for many years and traveled throughout the Middle East. I met many wonderful Muslims, which most are.
But I respected their culture and never ever dressed in a way that was inappropriate for that country.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Strange that Islamics are the first to protest this Bill, but what about all the other members of society that this Bill affects.
Camels wear the veil in the desert. That is reasonable but what possible reason do women have for wearing a veil in western communities if it is not political?
Camels wear the veil in the desert. That is reasonable but what possible reason do women have for wearing a veil in western communities if it is not political?
Wirey
Fartist
And in Canada, with our formal government policy of multiculturalism which we have had since the 1970s:
Multiculturalism in Canada - Wikipedia
Allowing freedom of religious expression is enshrined in law. Wearing a face covering that is acceptable and normal in your culture is your legal right. So, I guess the law-makers who are abrogating the rights of Canadian citizens, which is illegal, should be jailed. Thanks for the input!
Wirey
Fartist
The same reason Catholics wear crosses and morons wear Toronto Blue Jay hats. You are allowed to do it legally, and it makes them feel better for no good reason.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Do these crosses and hats conceal their identity?
Maybe we should all start wearing full-face coverings in public especially in locations where CCTV is prevalent or are there special laws that would prevent that?
Wirey
Fartist
Is there a law against wearing scarves in the winter? No? Then I guess this is plainly just an anti-Muslim law, and therefore illegal in this country. I refuse to accept that a Canadian government has the right to dictate religion to anyone, and I am prepared to vote to prove it.
Notanumber
A Free Man
It has nothing to do with religion.
That’s why they made it a ban on all face coverings.
It has everything to do with religion. That's why it's been called a "niqab ban" since it was first suggested.
There weren't until the Quebec legislature passed this idiotic law.
Wirey
Fartist
Exactly that. It affects no one but observant female Muslims. Illegal as hell, racist as hell, and doomed to fail. That's the great thing about Canada. Bigots can publicly go **** themselves.
Notanumber
A Free Man
It is more political than it is religious.
The ban or the niqab?
The ban is more racist than it is political, IMO.
If a woman has freely chosen to wear a niqab, who are you to say she shouldn't?
If a woman is being forced to wear a niqab, why would you cut her off from the services she needs to leave her situation?
The whole thing is an idiotic, hypocritical mess: "those women are being told what to wear - we assume - so let's try to fix this problem by telling them what to wear!"
Notanumber
A Free Man
Islamic ideology is forcing Muslim women into making political statements by making them wear desert attire where there is no desert. Even a camel would not need to wear a veil in Quebec.
If anyone objects, it gives them the excuse for violence to enforce submission.
Does Islam have special needs, why should its followers demand special privileges?
Whether it can be enforced and how long it will remain are different questions but this is worth reading - An Excellent Response to the Stupidity of Muslim ‘Feminists’ who Defend the Hijab and Niqab
Wirey
Fartist
Do the Catholics? As soon as they tear down the crucifix in the National Assembly and outlaw crosses on top of church spires, we can talk. Until then, it's a denial of religious freedom based on racism. When all religions are banned from putting up these things (how many murdering armies had a cross at the front?) then you're right. Until then, you're just another redneck hater.
Some unrelated news from Canuckistan.....
Canadian fined for singing 90s dance hit
Taoufik Moalla, 38, was driving near his suburban Montreal home on 27 September when police pulled him over.
Police asked him for identification and whether he had been screaming.
"I said, 'No, I was singing,'" Mr Moalla told the Montreal Gazette. "I was singing
the refrain 'Everybody Dance Now,' but it wasn't loud enough to disturb anyone."
The Montreal man had been on his way to the grocery store to buy a bottle
of water when the 90s dance track started playing in his CD player.
Police checked the inside of his car along with his license and registration.
They handed back his documents along with the fine.
Canadian fined for singing 90s dance hit
Taoufik Moalla, 38, was driving near his suburban Montreal home on 27 September when police pulled him over.
Police asked him for identification and whether he had been screaming.
"I said, 'No, I was singing,'" Mr Moalla told the Montreal Gazette. "I was singing
the refrain 'Everybody Dance Now,' but it wasn't loud enough to disturb anyone."
The Montreal man had been on his way to the grocery store to buy a bottle
of water when the 90s dance track started playing in his CD player.
Police checked the inside of his car along with his license and registration.
They handed back his documents along with the fine.
Wirey
Fartist
It's illegal to sing poorly in Canada. We had to pass that law to get Alanis Morissette to shut up.