Have Religions Outlived its Usefulness in The USA

[Bunyip]

I believe that religion has been reduced to a social evil since the enlightenment. Time for us to complete the great leap begun in the enlightenment and leave these dark shadows behind us.

 

[Tabb]

Religion will always be useful as an agent which harmonizes a population just as ethnic unity or nationalism has. Of course these agents have failed and will continue to do so. The issue is not an single agent but a lack of motivation by humanity as a whole to treat each other as a global community. Until this happens religion or any similar concept of unity will be used

The question is though can it really work in a country as diverse as the USA. This is not a homegenenous nation. So the question becomes is it healthy to have an issue as religion to constantly drive us apart.

 

[Tabb]

I believe that religion has been reduced to a social evil since the enlightenment. Time for us to complete the great leap begun in the enlightenment and leave these dark shadows behind us.

I'm wondering the same.

 

[Shad]

The question is though can it really work in a country as diverse as the USA. This is not a homegenenous nation. So the question becomes is it healthy to have an issue as religion to constantly drive us apart.

Considering the majority are Christian it is working. The culture is still the offspring of European Judo-Christian values. I am not seeing the leadership of the nation becoming less religious. I see one faction become increasingly religious while the other pays lip service to cover their voter base.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The World has never seen a nation like ours before. We are a nation of multicultures where every race, religion, and nationality resides.

I get sick of nominating my own country, and Willamena already put forth Canada, so I'm gonna offer up New Zealand.

 

[Tabb]

I get sick of nominating my own country, and Willamena already put forth Canada, so I'm gonna offer up New Zealand.

Maybe I should of said North America. Please excuse me Canada. My USA bias came through even though I was trying to hide it by not saying America. New Zealand though, it's pretty much European( mostly British )and Polynesian. It's no doubt a beautiful set of Islands and a very secular nation but I don't think it comes close to the diversity we have in the North America.

 

[Thruve]

It appears socialism has this effect. America, though sad, is undergoing the process.

 

[Tabb]

It appears socialism has this effect. America, though sad, is undergoing the process.

I think this country has been a combination of socialism and capitalism for a long time and that's a good thing. While pure socialism may be distasteful, pure capitalism is a disaster.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Maybe I should of said North America. Please excuse me Canada. My USA bias came through even though I was trying to hide it by not saying America. New Zealand though, it's pretty much European( mostly British )and Polynesian. It's no doubt a beautiful set of Islands and a very secular nation but I don't think it comes close to the diversity we have in the North America.

It's more diverse than you might think, after having lived there for a couple of years. It's probably not as diverse as the USA, but still...

(Wiki has 72.4% of the US population being 'White', New Zealand with about 69% identifying as New Zealanders of European descent. A full quarter of the country was born OUTSIDE of New Zealand)

Anyhows, I was being petty. Had no issue with the thrust of your point, I'm just a little over-sensitive to an American-centric view of the world sometimes.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

Welcome to the forums/

 

[Apple Sugar]

Your cynicism on this subject is shared by many and for good reasons. Most of the teachings of today's religions are totally outdated. We tell ourselves that scriptures that were taken literally centuries ago and is totally outrageous today are meant to be Metaphors with deeper knowledge. Some of it is so ridiculous or barbaric that we just pretend it's not there but do so without questioning the entire concept. So how much longer will we continue this. Especially in this age of information.

I think it will continue well past both our lifetimes.
There are some who must have an abject understanding of themselves in order to function in a world that is otherwise outside of their control. So their little corner of it and all that they encounter is better faced if they at first feel unworthy being who they are. And then accept self deprication as a means to overcome.

Critical thinking regarding the scriptures in the Christian Bible is usually discouraged because it becomes readily apparent after employing such review that the Christian God is malevolent. Even going so far as to say insane and sadistically so. That makes Christianity Maltheism.
Though this does go to explain the worst of the human population when one believes humans are made in the image and likeness of that being.

But today's Christianity, as in days of old, asks people to assume a personal belief and code of conduct that in truth requires they assume a higher morality than their God. And that's why it fails as a true moral principled platform across the world.

Religion generally is a crutch. But people being insecure as people will always lean on something to explain to themselves why those parts they can't accept in their personality are there.
Even Luciferians and Satanists. Their faith allows them to exploit their carnal hedonistic nature. Holding that up on an altar and calling it a religion. When really it is auto-theism. In truth Christianity and that hold that in common. Because the Christian God is actually made in our image and likeness.
He drowned the entire world for being exactly what he predestined it to be. Like a brat that destroys his toys because they are toys he no longer likes to play with.

That's not a higher power. That's a low life. And that's us installed under the umbrella term, "God". No wonder there are those that fear such a thing. The things humans are capable of is scary stuff.:faint:

 

[Apple Sugar]

Welcome to the forums/

Thank you.

 

[Tabb]

Welcome to the forums/

Thanks

 

[Smart_Guy]

Um, welcome aboard?


You know, I think I like you

 

[Tabb]

Um, welcome aboard?


You know, I think I like you

Thanks Smart Guy!!

 

[Tabb]

I think it will continue well past both our lifetimes.
There are some who must have an abject understanding of themselves in order to function in a world that is otherwise outside of their control. So their little corner of it and all that they encounter is better faced if they at first feel unworthy being who they are. And then accept self deprication as a means to overcome.

Critical thinking regarding the scriptures in the Christian Bible is usually discouraged because it becomes readily apparent after employing such review that the Christian God is malevolent. Even going so far as to say insane and sadistically so. That makes Christianity Maltheism.
Though this does go to explain the worst of the human population when one believes humans are made in the image and likeness of that being.

But today's Christianity, as in days of old, asks people to assume a personal belief and code of conduct that in truth requires they assume a higher morality than their God. And that's why it fails as a true moral principled platform across the world.

Religion generally is a crutch. But people being insecure as people will always lean on something to explain to themselves why those parts they can't accept in their personality are there.
Even Luciferians and Satanists. Their faith allows them to exploit their carnal hedonistic nature. Holding that up on an altar and calling it a religion. When really it is auto-theism. In truth Christianity and that hold that in common. Because the Christian God is actually made in our image and likeness.
He drowned the entire world for being exactly what he predestined it to be. Like a brat that destroys his toys because they are toys he no longer likes to play with.

That's not a higher power. That's a low life. And that's us installed under the umbrella term, "God". No wonder there are those that fear such a thing. The things humans are capable of is scary stuff.:faint:

I agree with what you are saying but my point is about tha US as a country. It would be un -American' to ban religion so people would still have their faith but why are we as a nation subsidizing religion with tax breaks and allowing one particular religion to have undue influence on our government. Some of the recent legislation passed is wrong for a secular nation.

 

[Tabb]

It's more diverse than you might think, after having lived there for a couple of years. It's probably not as diverse as the USA, but still...

(Wiki has 72.4% of the US population being 'White', New Zealand with about 69% identifying as New Zealanders of European descent. A full quarter of the country was born OUTSIDE of New Zealand)

It sounds like a great place to live.

Anyhows, I was being petty. Had no issue with the thrust of your point, I'm just a little over-sensitive to an American-centric view of the world sometimes.

I get that. The USA is like the loud mouth over the top braggard at the party that never gives anyone else a chance to speak.

 

[Sunstone]

The World has never seen a nation like ours before.

Excepting only when it has.

 

[Sunstone]

I get that. The USA is like the loud mouth over the top braggard at the party that never gives anyone else a chance to speak.

Our Awesomeness™ is matched only by our consistency in understating it.

 

[Sunstone]

I don't think there's much reason to show favoritism to religions, such as by giving them tax breaks, or by subsidizing their private schools.