Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, why would I seek him? I would never find him since he is in heaven.
This personal relationship people believe they have with Jesus is all in their head.
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Have You Sought Jesus?
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This personal relationship people believe they have with Jesus is all in their head.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Ok then.
Balthazzar
N. Germanic Descent
I'm looking at mathematics starting with 0. That zero is infinite, in and of itself and is layered on top of each other. One side goes to the negative, the other way it goes to the positive. All we see can see is the 0, but underneath or maybe it's on the inside where we can't see are layers -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, etc. On the other side of origin "0" is yet another series of layers, +1, +2, +3, +4, +5, +6, etc. It's still a 0, which is all we see and it's all the same, it simply has many layers and many attributes. The universe, our origin "0" and our home, and our forever dwelling place is that 0. We exist and experience life on whatever layer we are located on. The recycle happens over and over and over and over, the changes, the transformations, the growth, the development, etc. all associated with how we as individuals experience life as we know it. It's personal to each of us, and it's different for each of us. It's our personal relationship, but I will accept that it's in our heads, due to our brains being responsible for our sensory perception and experiences. It's still real. why? Because "experience" is real. Why? Because we live and feel and go through them, which makes experience "real" for us who experience on a personal level.
Absolutely Frank
Member
I kind of fell into it by accident. I wasn't looking. I was called for some reason. At first I was stubborn and resentful but I am getting used to it. I don't recommend being called.
It sounds like you have to already believe before you actually "experience" him.
What, exactly, does finding Jesus mean?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I think the best way is to read the Bible and learn to understand Jesus. It can also help to ask Holy spirit to guide.
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him?
Luke 11:13
I will pray to the Father, and he will give you another Counselor, that he may be with you forever,-- the Spirit of truth, whom the world can't receive; for it doesn't see him, neither knows him. You know him, for he lives with you, and will be in you.
John 14:16-17
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and will remind you of all that I said to you.
John 14:26
When the Counselor has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will testify about me.
John 15:26
However when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you things that are coming.
John 16:13
When they bring you before the synagogues, the rulers, and the authorities, don't be anxious how or what you will answer, or what you will say; for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that same hour what you must say."
Luke 12:11-12
I found Jesus in my heart when I was a child always revered Him and His teachings of love and forgiveness. As I grew up I did not find Jesus among the many competing sects so drifted away from Christianity until I once again heard His voice in Baha’u’llah and my heart rejoiced with much gladness.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
One would have to look to know
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Muhammad isnt god in the flesh.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
The majority of the sects don’t differ that much
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I agree with you about the many competing sects of Christianity, but the division among Christians is as old as Christianity itself (1 Corinthians 1:10–17).
Why Don’t You Believe Jesus Rose From The Grave?
They’re in the minority. The very small minority. Uhm... Literalism is the actual minority. Ask any believer and you will find that they don't literally believe the Bible. Does not make the stories unimportant or in useful to those people though.
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Jimmy
King Phenomenon
You’re right the majority doesn’t believe in the literal aspect of six days of creation. They accept evolution
… but when it comes to Jesus rising from the dead the majority wins out.
The quote you provided has no reference or attribution. From whence does it come?
Christians claim that their New Testament is Holy Writ and of divine origin. From that claim it is reasonable to expect that should be a preferred vehicle for promulgation of Jesus. It even claims as much where it says "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, ye might have life through His name."(John 20:31) This contradicts your statement where you wrote "I don't think you can find him by reading scripture." Truth is not found by turning off one's intellect.
Having made a rigorous examination of the Christian New Testament and contrasting that with the TaNaKh, I have concluded that the real Jesus is not as he is portrayed by Christianity. Those that truly seek him will find him. He is a Jew.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Nether was Jesus. God is not a man.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
The father isn’t a man. The son is god in da flesh baby!
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Yes, I have. Then I eventually realized I wasn't interested anymore and it didn't work for me.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I recognize that you believe this. I'm really not here to change your mind. Just giving my own perspective.