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Head Transplant: Does it work?

Do u think it works?

  • A) Yes(why)

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • B) No(why)

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Total voters
    7

Kirran

Premium Member
Well it wouldn't really be a head transplant, but a body transplant, as the individual resides within the central nervous system, the vast majority of which is situated in the brain.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
Why not just take all the thoughts and ideas out of one head and put them in another. Complete mind and body transfer. Wasn't something like this on Star Trek or something?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Do you think Head transplant works? And how would the dead body work?
Technically isnt a person dead if u decapitate it?? The surgery for Head transplant takes 24 hours. How can you isolate the soul during the surgery?



http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...tion-that-will-go-ahead-in-2017-10498627.html

Frankenstein style!
It seems like this is more a body transplant than a head transplant. The "soul" you speak of resides in the brain, at least in this context, so they could theoretically just change the body that is connected to said brain.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why not just take all the thoughts and ideas out of one head and put them in another. Complete mind and body transfer. Wasn't something like this on Star Trek or something?
The problem with that is you would have to make the new brain identicle to the old one, or you could turn into a very different person. For instance, since my brain is impaired in some areas, such as areas responsible for empathy, if I were to be transferred into a new brain that resembles a normal brain, I would be overcome with new thoughts and feelings that I wouldn't have any idea what they are or how to manage them. For some I imagine it would be a very difficult, shocking, trying, and turbulent time trying to adjust to a new brain.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
I would be surprised if they could make it work. They are doing some amazing things, but this takes the level of complexity to a whole new level.

If they do I then worry what the future could bring. Old guys head on a new body... does he live longer? How much would the Trumps of the world pay for that one?
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
Do you think Head transplant works? And how would the dead body work?
Technically isnt a person dead if u decapitate it?? The surgery for Head transplant takes 24 hours. How can you isolate the soul during the surgery?



http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...tion-that-will-go-ahead-in-2017-10498627.html

Frankenstein style!
As long as you can keep a sufficient amount of oxygenated blood flowing thought the head and body, they shouldn't die. In this case, it would need to be done artificially, with a mechanical pump replacing the heart and tubes connecting the head to the pump. Alternatively, there is a way to drain the head and body of blood at low temperatures to put them in a state similar to suspended animation. That might be the better way to go. As far as the soul question goes (assuming there is one), there really would be no need to address that so long as the head actually stays alive. Isn't it commonly accepted that the soul only departs upon death? No death = no soul departure.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Technically it will not work, because the nerves are too complex to be cut and reconnected. You may keep the head alive, but it will never control the body again, at least not in the same way. In the future it may be possible. What you need is an artificially intelligent surgeon with many microscopic tools and which is smart enough to keep track of every neural cell in both the head connections and the body connections, and then you need interface hardware to help each connection. Each piece of interface hardware will have to be microscopic and custom made for each tiny nerve, and it will have to be soft and flexible like real nerves. The AI surgeon will need to be able to work very quickly, more quickly than a human could observe; so it have to be able to work without assistance. You will need to be able to guide the nerves to heal in a way that does not damage the signals, and you will need a new kind of pain killer to help your patient to recover. Once you have these technologies a head transplant will be relatively simple, but until you have all of them it will be relatively impossible.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Yes it will work. Perhaps not the very first operation, but in the future it will be a possibility. It has been performed on animals many times. Sometimes with questionable motives, including attaching two heads to a dog in the 60s.
 

morphesium

Active Member
Do you think Head transplant works?
In the future, hopefully yes. It could be a common practice- you have a good brain and when the body turns weak, doctors may prescribe a head (body) transplant, perhaps even an artificial or semi artificial body.

And how would the dead body work?
Death is a complex phenomenon. There are situations in which the brain may die (in accidents,stroke etc), but the body or at-least some of the organs are still living. Some vital organs (heart) from the brain-dead living body is taken out and transplanted in another body. However, once the organ dies (permanent cessation of cell activities), one cannot re-use these organs.

Source -Wikipedia
Brain death is used as an indicator of legal death in many jurisdictions, but it is defined inconsistently. Various parts of the brain may keep living when others die, and the term "brain death" has been used to refer to various combinations. For example, although a major medical dictionary[6] says that "brain death" is synonymous with "cerebral death" (death of the cerebrum), the US National Library of Medicine Medical Subject Headings(MeSH) system defines brain death as including the brainstem. The distinctions can be important because, for example, in someone with a dead cerebrum but a living brainstem, the heartbeat and ventilation can continue unaided, whereas in whole-brain death (which includes brain stem death), only life support equipment would keep those functions going.

Technically isnt a person dead if u decapitate it?? The surgery for Head transplant takes 24 hours.
The brain will live on for a few more second even after decapitation. There will be some reserved glucose and oxygen in the brain and the cells will survive using those. If one can somehow manage to supply oxygenated blood continuously and take other necessary medical precautions, then the head (or the person himself) will not be dead even after decapitation.

Even if the total surgery takes 23 or 36 hours (since we cant do the operation "in an instant"), what the doctors might be doing is this - They reduce the temperature of both of the bodies. Then (concerned with the patients head whose body is to be transplanted) take one major artery, cut it and supply blood through artificial system, cut a major vain - take the necessary precaution, and another one and so on and finally the nerve stem which results in complete decapitation. (At the same time, similar process should be going on with the other person's donor body)The controlled medical decapitation alone should take some time.

Even after normal decapitation, the various parts of the brain dies at different times.

How can you isolate the soul during the surgery?
It is only now (due to modern science), that we have started to understand what soul is, what freewill is etc.
Machine robot demonstrates self-awareness solving logic puzzle. This "self-awareness" is s precursor to the concept of soul.
Computer program simulates evolution robotic population.
For artificial intelligence pioneer Marvin Minsky computers have soul.

All such papers are revolutionizing the understanding of the soul concept. I am quite optimistic that future computers and robots will be artificially intelligent and will have self-awareness and will have sensations.


taking a quote from the above "Since the procedure is unprecedented, apart from mixed results in dogs and monkeys, doctors are not sure what could happen during the surgery – or how Spiridinov is likely to be if and when he wakes up"

They have done this head- transplant on dogs an monkeys with mixed results (some negative and some positive). So in the future, as technology and know-how increases and better medicines becomes available, such operations should bring more and more positive results.

Thanks for the link.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Do you think Head transplant works? And how would the dead body work?
Technically isnt a person dead if u decapitate it?? The surgery for Head transplant takes 24 hours. How can you isolate the soul during the surgery?



http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...tion-that-will-go-ahead-in-2017-10498627.html

Frankenstein style!
for my opinion it's could be work in future , since God will give new body in resurrection/Judgement day .

the problem is "in the mind" , could human duplicate mind, or copy paste memories from mind to other mind , so original mind who will judged in resurrection day ? this may very complicated to do for with actual human science .
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Yes it will work. Perhaps not the very first operation, but in the future it will be a possibility. It has been performed on animals many times. Sometimes with questionable motives, including attaching two heads to a dog in the 60s.
But none of the mice could survive more than a few days.
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
for my opinion it's could be work in future , since God will give new body in resurrection/Judgement day .

the problem is "in the mind" , could human duplicate mind, or copy paste memories from mind to other mind , so original mind who will judged in resurrection day ? this may very complicated to do for with actual human science .
The head would remain alive, so there'd be no need to copy-paste memories or duplicate the mind. The mind would remain intact throughout the procedure.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The head would remain alive, so there'd be no need to copy-paste memories or duplicate the mind. The mind would remain intact throughout the procedure.
i said that would may happened , in first sentence

the last paragraphe , just was thoughts ,about if human succeed to transfer memories from mind to another mind , or duplicated , how it's managed in Judgement day by God
 
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