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Heading to an Israeli - Lebanon Iran etc War

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Iran vows to avenge killing of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh

The assassination of senior Hamas figure Ismail Haniyeh was carried out by a guided missile targeting his private residence in Tehran, sources from Saudi outlet Al Hadath say. The news outlet reports the missile hit the building at around 2:00 local time (23:30 BST).

Fars news, which is affiliated with Iran's revolutionary guard, also says Haniyeh was stationed in a residence for veterans in the north of Tehran, and that he was killed by "a projectile from the air".
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
https://tass.com/world/1823821

Khamenei orders direct strike on Israel, NYT says

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has ordered a strike on Israel in response to the assassination of Hamas Political Bureau chief Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, says The New York Times, citing sources.
According to the newspaper, the order was issued Wednesday morning.
It also noted that Khamenei gave instructions "to prepare plans for both an attack and a defense in the event that the war expands and Israel or the United States strike Iran."
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
The killing of Haniyah means little battlefield-wise, but it will be highly humiliating to Iran if it does not respond.

This means that Israel's real intention is to defeat Iran militarily in a fight, or totally humiliate them without one.

It also means that Israel thinks it will win the fight if there is one, else they would not push Iran in a corner where it will have to respond to save face.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member

@MalcolmNance

WARNING: Intelligence indicators from Iran are they will launch hundreds of Ballistic missiles and drones at Israel. Larger strike than in April.

Iran, Hezbollah, Iraqi militias and Yemen will likely want to saturate the air defense and draw blood for HAMAS.

US forces from the Roosevelt and Wasp battle go up may enter direct combat with Iran if it goes poorly. Be warned.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The killing of Haniyah means little battlefield-wise, but it will be highly humiliating to Iran if it does not respond.

This means that Israel's real intention is to defeat Iran militarily in a fight, or totally humiliate them without one.

It also means that Israel thinks it will win the fight if there is one, else they would not push Iran in a corner where it will have to respond to save face.
Just a reminder that it was Hamas, a proxy of Iran, that started this on 10-7.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
The assassination of senior Hamas figure Ismail Haniyeh was carried out by a guided missile targeting his private residence in Tehran ...

No, and no.

From the Times of Israel:

The explosion that killed Ismail Haniyeh and his bodyguard early Wednesday was set off by a sophisticated, remote-controlled bomb smuggled about two months ago into the Hamas leader’s room at the Tehran guesthouse where he was staying, The New York Times reported Thursday.​
The report cited one American and seven Middle Eastern officials, including two members of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. It contradicted earlier reports, including by the IRGC’s Tasnim news agency, that a missile had killed Haniyeh. It also cited officials from the United States and the Middle East as saying or assessing that Israel was behind the blast.​
According to three Iranian officials cited by the Times, the assassination is a “tremendous embarrassment” for the IRGC, which runs the guesthouse where Haniyeh and other dignitaries were staying. [emphasis added - JS]
Haniyeh was in Tehran for the swearing-in of Iran’s newly elected president Masoud Pezeshkian. Jerusalem has neither confirmed nor denied the assassination, but Iran has vowed to exact revenge on Israel.​

"Tremendous embarrassment" indeed. The location must have been viewed as a luxurious safe-house par excellence, and yet some person - or, more likely, some team - proved able to bring in the necessary electronics and explosives, and configure a weapon that remained unnoticed for weeks. Whatever one might think of the act, the execution (pun intended) was masterful.

I suspect that many in the Iran regime are feeling qualitatively less secure today.

 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Probably Iranian contrived propaganda, but fwiw.....




Clash Report

@clashreport

Iranian sources just shared this photo: "Netanyahu's surveillance in Tel Aviv by Iran"

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Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
This from Aljazeera ...

Khalil al-Hayya, the deputy head of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, told reporters at a news conference in Tehran late on Wednesday that “a missile entered the room” of Haniyeh and killed him and his bodyguard in an attack that “directly” hit the floor of the building where he was staying.​
An image released late Wednesday by Sabereen News, an outlet affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), claimed to show the site of the assassination. It showed a multistorey building partly covered with a black tarp that appeared to have sustained damage to two floors. Al Jazeera was unable to independently verify the image.​
The guesthouse was in the Saadabad Palace Complex area in north Tehran, where foreign dignitaries are hosted and where Iranian presidents welcome heads of state on official visits.​
Iranian officials have not confirmed the details of the assassination. They have so far only reported that a guided “airborne projectile” targeted Haniyeh’s residence.​
A missile hit would certainly be a good deal less embarrassing. I tend to believe the NYT reporting and suspect that what we're seeing is political spin by some folks who are now feeling a good deal more vulnerable.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
This from Aljazeera ...
A missile hit would certainly be a good deal less embarrassing. I tend to believe the NYT reporting and suspect that what we're seeing is political spin by some folks who are now feeling a good deal more vulnerable.
"The first casualty of war is truth"...cliche I know, but both sides are spinning, and the winner will ultimately get to write the history, thus we learn with relief that the goodies always win in the end.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member

Biden orders new US ‘defensive’ military assets deployed amid Iran, Hezbollah threats​

The US military will deploy new “defensive assets” in the Middle East after Iran and Hezbollah vowed to retaliate against Israel and “those who are behind” it for the assassination of two top officials in the Lebanese militant group and Hamas, President Joe Biden said Thursday.

“The President discussed efforts to support Israel’s defense against threats, including against ballistic missiles and drones, to include new defensive US military deployments,” the White House said in a readout of his call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
No, and no.

From the Times of Israel:

The explosion that killed Ismail Haniyeh and his bodyguard early Wednesday was set off by a sophisticated, remote-controlled bomb smuggled about two months ago into the Hamas leader’s room at the Tehran guesthouse where he was staying, The New York Times reported Thursday.​
The report cited one American and seven Middle Eastern officials, including two members of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. It contradicted earlier reports, including by the IRGC’s Tasnim news agency, that a missile had killed Haniyeh. It also cited officials from the United States and the Middle East as saying or assessing that Israel was behind the blast.​
According to three Iranian officials cited by the Times, the assassination is a “tremendous embarrassment” for the IRGC, which runs the guesthouse where Haniyeh and other dignitaries were staying. [emphasis added - JS]
Haniyeh was in Tehran for the swearing-in of Iran’s newly elected president Masoud Pezeshkian. Jerusalem has neither confirmed nor denied the assassination, but Iran has vowed to exact revenge on Israel.​

"Tremendous embarrassment" indeed. The location must have been viewed as a luxurious safe-house par excellence, and yet some person - or, more likely, some team - proved able to bring in the necessary electronics and explosives, and configure a weapon that remained unnoticed for weeks. Whatever one might think of the act, the execution (pun intended) was masterful.

I suspect that many in the Iran regime are feeling qualitatively less secure today.

Love it.

Ismail was assassinated in Iran after the death of the previous president by before the new one was elected.

Media being used to send coded messages it seems.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
"The first casualty of war is truth"...cliche I know, but both sides are spinning, and the winner will ultimately get to write the history, thus we learn with relief that the goodies always win in the end.

So ...
  • the news does not matter;
  • the news source does not matter;
  • the integrity and safety of the journalist does not matter;
  • and the quality of the journalism does not matter.
Apparently, all that matters is amateurish and sophomoric dismissiveness.

And yet you tout the reporting of Saudi outlet Al Hadath.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
So ...
  • the news does not matter;
  • the news source does not matter;
  • the integrity and safety of the journalist does not matter;
  • and the quality of the journalism does not matter.
Apparently, all that matters is amateurish and sophomoric dismissiveness.

And yet you tout the reporting of Saudi outlet Al Hadath.
What matters is truth, reality trumps speculation by the uninitiated.

Please try and understand that words are meant to convey reality, they are not reality, merely a representation. Please don't confuse words for reality, bias will always influence the imagined reality represented by the conceptualization.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
If Hezbollah and Iran launch a significant amount of their arsenal at Israeli cities God help us all.
Maybe God angry from Israel monster, which slaughter Palestinias in Gaza and West Bank.
 
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