Heaven

[Fool]

Are they really people in heaven; if they have no body?

 

[Thief]

Are they really people in heaven; if they have no body?

I believe we keep some sense of location

I am here and you are there

and so.....here in this life
I post you read
if we were closer.....i speak and you listen

and the same in return

in the next life these conventions don't exist
they went to the grave with our bodies

in heaven.....you are known by your thoughts and your feelings
you cannot hide them

and all that was ever done in secret shall be made known

we share what we are
we dream together

and with at least 7billion other souls possibly surviving the last breath....
we could all be busy for a very long time

 

[eldios]

Are they really people in heaven; if they have no body?

The word "heaven" represents that thoughts of our Creator who spoke His invisible creation into existence.

The word "earth" represents all the formed visible images that we created men observe within our created minds that were processed from those thoughts of our Creator.

Psalm 33
8: Let all the earth fear the LORD, let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him!
9: For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood forth.

Psalm 92
5: How great are thy works, O LORD! Thy thoughts are very deep!
6: The dull man cannot know, the stupid cannot understand this:
7: that, though the wicked sprout like grass and all evildoers flourish, they are doomed to destruction for ever,
8: but thou, O LORD, art on high for ever.

Psalm 139
17: How precious to me are thy thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them!

The spirit of God is nothing but thoughts broken down into stored data. From that data, formed images are processed from it in the minds of created men where they see themselves in a body walking around on an earth.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Details are largely irrelevant when it comes to dreams and wishes.

 

[The Holy Bottom Burp]

Are they really people in heaven; if they have no body?

Ah, but perhaps they do have a body? Jesus turned up with a physical body after dying, inviting Thomas to poke his wounds. Also, there were the "zombies" in the gospel of Matthew:
Matthew 27:51-53New King James Version (NKJV)
Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

Wonder where those zombies went? Did they go back into the grave? Anyhoo, I think there are a few philosophical problems with heaven:

• It is said there is no unhappiness in heaven, but if I find myself there and know people I love are suffering for all eternity I wouldn't be happy, nor would I feel like worshipping the deity that put them there, so that thing up in heaven wouldn't be me. It would be a facsimile of me, an eternal grinning idiot who has apparently forgotten about the people he loved (or even liked, or even knew) during his life.
• Part of the appeal of going to heaven is surely to be reunited with the people you have known during your life, but you are different things to different people as you go through life's journey. Your grandparents may have only known you as a baby or a child before they died, so to them you are forever the child they remember. To your parents, your siblings, your sexual partner, and (eventually) your children, you represent something else again. We are "waves", not inanimate objects, so what is it that goes up into heaven? What is that thing? Perhaps we'll be like the zombies? If horror films are anything to go by, I just hope we are all a bit better looking than those ones!

 

[Bird123]

Are they really people in heaven; if they have no body?

OK, find a quiet dark room with no distractions. Close your eyes. Focus inward. Say to yourself. It's me.

Are you really a physical body???

 

[Fool]

Ah, but perhaps they do have a body? Jesus turned up with a physical body after dying, inviting Thomas to poke his wounds. Also, there were the "zombies" in the gospel of Matthew:
Matthew 27:51-53New King James Version (NKJV)
Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

Wonder where those zombies went? Did they go back into the grave? Anyhoo, I think there are a few philosophical problems with heaven:

• It is said there is no unhappiness in heaven, but if I find myself there and know people I love are suffering for all eternity I wouldn't be happy, nor would I feel like worshipping the deity that put them there, so that thing up in heaven wouldn't be me. It would be a facsimile of me, an eternal grinning idiot who has apparently forgotten about the people he loved (or even liked, or even knew) during his life.
• Part of the appeal of going to heaven is surely to be reunited with the people you have known during your life, but you are different things to different people as you go through life's journey. Your grandparents may have only known you as a baby or a child before they died, so to them you are forever the child they remember. To your parents, your siblings, your sexual partner, and (eventually) your children, you represent something else again. We are "waves", not inanimate objects, so what is it that goes up into heaven? What is that thing? Perhaps we'll be like the zombies? If horror films are anything to go by, I just hope we are all a bit better looking than those ones!

the body dies, or the temple collapses, the spirit survives. he isn't the first one to be raised from the dead.