Help me find a good Psychiatrist?

[Sand Dancer]

Are you involved with any Catholic groups that may be able to refer you to one? They may know of a psychiatrist that would fit your medical and spiritual needs.



As a parent of two autistic kids, I watched my kids get prescribed stuff that made everything worse. When I'd complain, they'd write me(and other concerned adults) off. When you don't feel your medical personnel is serving your needs, its okay to seek a new one.

(Though while searching for a new one, I fully advise you stay on your meds as prescribed, Matt! Don't take this into your own hands!)

Unfortunately, I think we have all heard the horror stories of pill mills. Just because someone is a doctor doesn't mean they are ethical. Sometimes the reason for the emphasis on certain meds is because they get kickbacks when they prescribe them. Whether or not they necessarily work the best is of secondary concern.

 

[Lyndon]

Are you a medical trained psychriatic doctor?

I have a very similar illness to the OP that is completely in remission due to taking antipsychotic and anti manic depression medication as well as 11 years of complete sobriety, The OP has no understanding of doctors and what they can do to help him, you have to work with the doctor not fight everything they ask for, there is no way to treat schitzoeffectve disorder without anti psychotic medication, which drug is a choice you can make with the doctor, different drugs work differently with different people its a matter of finding the one that has the least side effects and is effective for you, no anti psychotics as the OP wishes is a recipe for disaster, I think the OP has repeatedly told us what a disaster his life has been, that should give him food for thought, and no, doctors do not get monetary kickbacks for prescribing drugs, the only kickbacks they get are free samples of medication which they may or my not chose to give out.

 

[Spiderman]

Your posting strikes me as consistently psychotic, only anti psychotic medication is ever going to help you get better, as long as you are non med compliant your life will continue to be miserable IMHO, It would be a much better idea to accept that you need anti psychotic meds and argue with your doctor about which one works and which ones don't rather than get the absolutely crazy idea that you can function well without them

Just because a medication says it is antipsychotic, doesn't mean it treats psychotic symptoms in everyone who takes them. Only a fool would believe that

Take ADHD stimulants for example. They can make some people more psychotic, some people more hyper, and some people they calm down.

I never said I function well without antipsychotics.

Where did I ever say anything remotely close to the idea that I can function well without medication??

I take plenty meds that are helpful.

Because your comments are so lacking in knowledge, I know not to take your advice.

For one, you say my posts are consistently psychotic, yet I am heavily medicated on antipsychotics. That right there goes to show they don't help me.

Obviously I know I have mental health problems. Some people react badly to antipsychotics. I happen to be one of them.

I'm willing to try new ones, and I have tried many.

They simply make me worse.

ADHD medications and anticonvulsants and antidepressants have helped me in the past. My Doctor refuses to prescribe what actually helps.

Your idea that antipsychotics will always improve psychotic symptoms, is simply very ignorant of how the human brain responds to Psychotropic drugs.

Another example is that antidepressants actually have been known to increase the risk of suicide in many patients. The same medicine treats suicidal thoughts in others.

It is actually common knowledge.

Psychiatric medications can often do the opposite of what they intend to do. THAT IS A FACT!

And the fact is, my craving for my drug of choice and desire to kill myself always increases on antipsychotics, along with shakes, tremors, discomfort, low energy, and misery, because they block and lower dopamine levels. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter, that when is lacking , can cause desires for suicide, hopelessness from no energy, miserable thoughts, and all kinds of problems. That is a fact that is not even up for debate! To argue otherwise is like saying 1+1=3.

 

[JustGeorge]

I have a very similar illness to the OP that is completely in remission due to taking antipsychotic and anti manic depression medication as well as 11 years of complete sobriety, The OP has no understanding of doctors and what they can do to help him, you have to work with the doctor not fight everything they ask for, there is no way to treat schitzoeffectve disorder without anti psychotic medication, which drug is a choice you can make with the doctor, different drugs work differently with different people its a matter of finding the one that has the least side effects and is effective for you, no anti psychotics as the OP wishes is a recipe for disaster, I think the OP has repeatedly told us what a disaster his life has been, that should give him food for thought, and no, doctors do not get monetary kickbacks for prescribing drugs, the only kickbacks they get are free samples of medication which they may or my not chose to give out.

Glad everything worked for you, but not all medicines work the same for everyone. What is a perfect fix for one can be a train wreck for another.

 

[Spiderman]

I have a very similar illness to the OP that is completely in remission due to taking antipsychotic and anti manic depression medication as well as 11 years of complete sobriety, The OP has no understanding of doctors and what they can do to help him, you have to work with the doctor not fight everything they ask for, there is no way to treat schitzoeffectve disorder without anti psychotic medication, which drug is a choice you can make with the doctor, different drugs work differently with different people its a matter of finding the one that has the least side effects and is effective for you, no anti psychotics as the OP wishes is a recipe for disaster, I think the OP has repeatedly told us what a disaster his life has been, that should give him food for thought, and no, doctors do not get monetary kickbacks for prescribing drugs, the only kickbacks they get are free samples of medication which they may or my not chose to give out.

I don't fight everything they ask for. Just because antipsychotics helped you doesn't mean they help everyone.

My life has been a mess just as much and gets worse on antipsychotics. I react very badly to them.

I don't see why that is so hard for you to understand?

It is actually common factual knowledge that antipsychotics do not help everyone with psychotic symptoms.

You are speaking complete falsehood over and over and over again. You said there is NO way to treat schizoaffective disorder without antipsychotics.

That is completely false. I have known schizoaffective diagnosed people treated with anticonvulsants and epilepsy medicine.

The man from the movie a beautiful mind, was a real person with severe schizophrenia worse than mine, who responded badly to antipsychotics, and he learned to function without the medication.

 

[Lyndon]

So your solution is to try and get the doctor to give you stimulants, its just a bunch of nonsense, its like you only want the doctor to give you meds that get you high, not drugs that reduce your symptoms

 

[Spirit of Light]

I have a very similar illness to the OP that is completely in remission due to taking antipsychotic and anti manic depression medication as well as 11 years of complete sobriety, The OP has no understanding of doctors and what they can do to help him, you have to work with the doctor not fight everything they ask for, there is no way to treat schitzoeffectve disorder without anti psychotic medication, which drug is a choice you can make with the doctor, different drugs work differently with different people its a matter of finding the one that has the least side effects and is effective for you, no anti psychotics as the OP wishes is a recipe for disaster, I think the OP has repeatedly told us what a disaster his life has been, that should give him food for thought, and no, doctors do not get monetary kickbacks for prescribing drugs, the only kickbacks they get are free samples of medication which they may or my not chose to give out.

I have to say, when I read @Spiderman posting especially when he asking for help, it sound to me that he knows himself very well, and know what works for him.
@Spiderman have a lot more empathy toward others than what I seen in many others in RF.

Yes, to work with the psychriatic doctor is of essence, but if a person do not feel safe, or feel they are not heard it is easy to resist any help from that doctor.

Personally, if you gave me the advice i see you given @Spiderman I too would feel that you dont help at all.
Attacking someone who already lay down does not heal them.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So your solution is to try and get the doctor to give you stimulants, its just a bunch of nonsense

@Spiderman is trying to ask for the medication he knows has worked for him in the past.
He isn't asking for drugs to get high on, or get a trip of joy.
He is asking for help.

 

[Spiderman]

So your solution is to try and get the doctor to give you stimulants, its just a bunch of nonsense, its like you only want the doctor to give you meds that get you high, not drugs that reduce your symptoms

I never said that at all.

I'm not trying to get stimulants. An SSRI like prozac has helped in the past.

I respond badly to antipsychotics. Why not a bipolar Mood stabilizer drug like lamictal? It has helped.

 

[Spiderman]

I have to say, when I read @Spiderman posting especially when he asking for help, it sound to me that he knows himself very well, and know what works for him.
@Spiderman have a lot more empathy toward others than what I seen in many others in RF.

Yes, to work with the psychriatic doctor is of essence, but if a person do not feel safe, or feel they are not heard it is easy to resist any help from that doctor.

Personally, you gave me the advice i see you given @Spiderman I too would feel that you dont help at all.
Attacking someone who already lay down does not heal them.

Great post thank you! I have been told I am more compassionate than average person, so it is good to know that despite having mental health issues, I have strong empathy. Sometimes I forget.

 

[Spiderman]

So your solution is to try and get the doctor to give you stimulants, its just a bunch of nonsense, its like you only want the doctor to give you meds that get you high, not drugs that reduce your symptoms

Antipsychotics don't reduce my symptoms. I don't know what you are talking about.

What works for one person can destroy another person regarding chemicals!

 

[Spirit of Light]

Great post thank you! I have been told I am more compassionate than average person, so it is good to know that despite having mental health issues, I have strong empathy. Sometimes I forget.

Very welcome @Spiderman

Yes when you throwing your anger tantrums here in RF you can be pain in the behind
But deep within you there are a solid good guy. If your life had not been full of pain and agony from mental struggle you would probably be a very good leader of a business.

Yes I do have faith in you as a human

 

[Spiderman]

Very welcome @Spiderman

Yes when you throwing your anger tantrums here in RF you can be pain in the behind
But deep within you there are a solid good guy. If your life had not been full of pain and agony from mental struggle you would probably be a very good leader of a business.

Yes I do have faith in you as a human

Thank you. It's sad , but it means a lot.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Thank you. It's sad , but it means a lot.

Very welcome @Spiderman

 

[Spiderman]

So your solution is to try and get the doctor to give you stimulants, its just a bunch of nonsense, its like you only want the doctor to give you meds that get you high, not drugs that reduce your symptoms

Every time I hear a psychotic person say that an antipsychotic helped them, it intrigues me , and I ask them what they took , and how it helps, and ask the doc if I should try it.

If antipsychotics helped reduce your delusions, hallucinations, voices, mood swings, or insanity, I'm very jealous.

I wish they would do that for me. They simply do not.

If they do that for you without making you tired, zombified, and miserable, I am envious. They simply don't reduce my symptoms.

It's like: for some people prozac works miracles, for others prozac increases risk of suicide. Antipsychotics, like prozac, can do the opposite of what you intend for them to do.

 

[Lyndon]

I'm not psychotic, I take medications so I'm not, if you had cured your illness I would pay more attention to what you have to say

 

[Spiderman]

I'm not psychotic, I take medications so I'm not, if you had cured your illness I would pay attention to what you have to say

Just because I have an illness, doesn't mean everything I say is false.

There are mentally ill people who are geniuses , and contribute great things to the world.

I never said i cured my illness. It is a FACT that antipsychotics can make things worse for some people.

I happen to be one of them.

I have been on antipsychotics probably as long as you have known me. They are not reducing my symptoms from any evidence that I can tell.

Also, they sometimes bring a load of bad side effects.

Depakote and gabbapentin I take. That helps. Antidepressants have helped in the past with anticonvulsants and mood stabilizers. The doc won't prescribe those.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm not psychotic, I take medications so I'm not, if you had cured your illness I would pay attention to what you have to say

Why dont you stab the knife all the way in? Do you honestly think your coments helping @Spiderman to become more healthy?

Dont you think He do all he can to get a solution to his mental health issues, but every time he opens his mouth to ask for help, he feels as if nobody care for what he says?

 

[Lyndon]

I offered him help, unfortunately he thinks he understands medicine better than his doctor so there's not much I can say that's going to change anything

 

[Spiderman]

I offered him help, unfortunately he thinks he understands medicine better than his doctor so there's not much I can say that's going to change anything

I didn't say I understand medicine better than my Doctor.

Obviously I know how the medication effects me better than my doctor, because I feel how it effects me, and my doctor only knows me by meeting with me about an average of a half an hour a week.

My doctor doesn't actually know how it effects me. I actually do.

Obviously I know better than my doctor about how the medication is effective or having positive or negative results, because I live in this body and mind.

By the way, I have always been taking my medicine exactly as the doctor prescribes.

So I don't know what you are talking about.