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Here are five felonies Trump committed — if Cohen is telling the truth

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Nowhere Man said:
I love the Democrats newest credible witness. Matches their character.

Talk about desperation.
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Since Trump only surrounds himself with rather slimy characters what do you expect? This is very similar to a mob case. Cohen is reliable because a lie would hurt him immensely at this time. The truth can only help him a little bit.
 
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robocop (actually)

robocop (actually)

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sooda said:
Here are five felonies Trump committed — if Cohen is telling the truth..

Trump is seething at this point.. You may really want to read the whole thing. This is just a small part of the pile up on the information highway.

Trump was left seething and tweeting in Hanoi as his former consigliere upstaged him. At the best of times, Trump has the attention span of a hyperactive 8-year-old. Distracted by Cohen’s testimony, Trump was likely to be even less prepared than usual and even more likely to grant concessions to Kim Jong Un simply to draw attention back to himself.

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1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States. Cohen testified that he was present in July 2016 when Trump took a call on the speakerphone from Roger Stone, who said “that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Stone that, within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign.” According to Cohen, Trump replied, “Wouldn’t that be great.” (Stone has denied that account, in possible violation of a judge’s gag order.) Trump cannot claim that he did not know where the leaked emails ultimately came from: It had been public knowledge since mid-June 2016 that Russian hackers had penetrated the Democratic National Committee.

2. Lying to the FBI and the Justice Department. According to CNN, Trump, in his written testimony to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, claimed “that Roger Stone did not tell him about WikiLeaks, nor was he told about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son, campaign officials and a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton.” Cohen contradicted those assertions.

3. Suborning perjury. Cohen testified that Trump encouraged him to lie to Congress about his attempts in 2016 to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and that his personal lawyers reviewed the mendacious testimony.

4. Violating campaign finance laws. Cohen testified that Trump told him to pay off a porn star and reimbursed him for doing so. Cohen even produced a check Trump signed while he was president and another one that was signed by Donald Trump Jr., implicating the president’s son in this felony, as well.

To these four offenses, one may add: 5. Bank, wire and tax fraud. Cohen testified that Trump inflated his assets to win bank loans and deflated them to reduce his taxes — precisely the kind of scheme for which Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, is now facing lengthy prison time. And Cohen added that he knew of other offenses that federal prosecutors are still investigating.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...g-truth/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.27a294e7e45e
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Number 5 we know. Trump admitted in his campaign that he "used the law" and that was what all the people on the Forbes top list had to do.
 
Audie

Audie

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sooda said:
Here are five felonies Trump committed — if Cohen is telling the truth..

Trump is seething at this point.. You may really want to read the whole thing. This is just a small part of the pile up on the information highway.

Trump was left seething and tweeting in Hanoi as his former consigliere upstaged him. At the best of times, Trump has the attention span of a hyperactive 8-year-old. Distracted by Cohen’s testimony, Trump was likely to be even less prepared than usual and even more likely to grant concessions to Kim Jong Un simply to draw attention back to himself.

Excerpt:

1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States. Cohen testified that he was present in July 2016 when Trump took a call on the speakerphone from Roger Stone, who said “that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Stone that, within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign.” According to Cohen, Trump replied, “Wouldn’t that be great.” (Stone has denied that account, in possible violation of a judge’s gag order.) Trump cannot claim that he did not know where the leaked emails ultimately came from: It had been public knowledge since mid-June 2016 that Russian hackers had penetrated the Democratic National Committee.

2. Lying to the FBI and the Justice Department. According to CNN, Trump, in his written testimony to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, claimed “that Roger Stone did not tell him about WikiLeaks, nor was he told about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son, campaign officials and a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton.” Cohen contradicted those assertions.

3. Suborning perjury. Cohen testified that Trump encouraged him to lie to Congress about his attempts in 2016 to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and that his personal lawyers reviewed the mendacious testimony.

4. Violating campaign finance laws. Cohen testified that Trump told him to pay off a porn star and reimbursed him for doing so. Cohen even produced a check Trump signed while he was president and another one that was signed by Donald Trump Jr., implicating the president’s son in this felony, as well.

To these four offenses, one may add: 5. Bank, wire and tax fraud. Cohen testified that Trump inflated his assets to win bank loans and deflated them to reduce his taxes — precisely the kind of scheme for which Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, is now facing lengthy prison time. And Cohen added that he knew of other offenses that federal prosecutors are still investigating.

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The average American commits 3 felonies per day.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Subduction Zone said:
Since Trump only surrounds himself with rather slimy characters what do you expect? This is very similar to a mob case. Cohen is reliable because a lie would hurt him immensely at this time. The truth can only help him a little bit.
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All he has to do is remember the lines they gave them.
 
sooda

sooda

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Audie said:
So executions, treatment of women, that is all groovy?
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Women are treated well in KSA. They control the money, the home and the social life and they have more business licenses than men.

Executions are for convicted murderers, rapists and pedophiles and in recent years terrorists.,, also big time swindlers like Bernie Madoff.

Its pretty hard to get in trouble in Arabia unless you are a thief or public drunk,
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
sooda said:
Women are treated well in KSA. They control the money, the home and the social life and they have more business licenses than men.

Executions are for convicted murderers, rapists and pedophiles and in recent years terrorists.,, also big time swindlers like Bernie Madoff.

Its pretty hard to get in trouble in Arabia unless you are a thief or public drunk,
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Not being allowed to drive, or to go anywhere without
permission and escort would not be acceptable, to me.

I know a lady from Philippines, who comes from a small
town One girl from there went to work in Saudi Arabia.

When her family did not hear from her for many weeks,
they traveled to Manila, to appeal to the foreign service
to try to find out what was going on.

Six months later, word finally came back that she had
had a "heart attack". I dont know if they sent ashes
back, or what. There was never any resolution.

I do not think Arabia would have such a dismal reputation
if there were not some reason for it
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
Audie said:
Not being allowed to drive, or to go anywhere without
permission and escort would not be acceptable, to me.

I know a lady from Philippines, who comes from a small
town One girl from there went to work in Saudi Arabia.

When her family did not hear from her for many weeks,
they traveled to Manila, to appeal to the foreign service
to try to find out what was going on.

Six months later, word finally came back that she had
had a "heart attack". I dont know if they sent ashes
back, or what. There was never any resolution.

I do not think Arabia would have such a dismal reputation
if there were not some reason for it
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Bedouin women have always been allowed to drive. Women can drive in all the compounds. Most women come and go without male escorts or permission.. They visit, shop, go to school or whatever, That depends on the family.

I am sorry about your friend from Manila.

I always had a great deal of freedom in Arabia and never wore an Abaya or headscarf.

I think only bad things are worth writing about.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
sooda said:
Bedouin women have always been allowed to drive. Women can drive in all the compounds. Most women come and go without male escorts or permission.. They visit, shop, go to school or whatever, That depends on the family.

I am sorry about your friend from Manila.

I always had a great deal of freedom in Arabia and never wore an Abaya or headscarf.

I think only bad things are worth writing about.
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I guess I understand where you are coming from.
I always stand up for China, and dont like/ wont
accept any criticism unless maybe I say it.
 
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