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Here we are 1984, in 2020

InChrist

Free4ever
“If you want to have riots calling or social justice and burn down whole city blocks, that seems to be allowed. If you want to have violent anti-Trump rallies, that seems to be allowed as well. But if you dare to hold a protest against the New World Order, the COVID lockdowns, or the massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil, they come for you and force you to disperse. Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/tho...g-an-immediate-end-to-the-covid-restrictions/

How do you see things taking place right now?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
“If you want to have riots calling or social justice and burn down whole city blocks, that seems to be allowed. If you want to have violent anti-Trump rallies, that seems to be allowed as well. But if you dare to hold a protest against the New World Order, the COVID lockdowns, or the massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil, they come for you and force you to disperse. Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/tho...g-an-immediate-end-to-the-covid-restrictions/

How do you see things taking place right now?
I still see a bunch of snowflakes who fail to accept covid is not all about them. It is literally all of us. People keep protesting masks, they keep protesting restrictions, and holy **** America is struggling with covid in a way nations who did heed lockdowns, restrictions, and masks simply are not.
And, yes, let's keep over playing the riots. Lets keep pretending they were way worse than they were, and that no one was going about things as normal in these "ransacked and burned" city blocks. Lets keep pretending Portland was the warzone it wasn't. I heard massive chunks of Indianapolis were burned down, but when I was there last I could see no signs of this.
And let's keep forgetting those in support of Trump, in support of racist and murderous police, in support of racism, have murdered and maimed protestors with guns and vehicles. RW extremism is on the rise. But, yes, lets blow protesting way out of proportion and ignore the RW radical terrorists on trial for attempting to kidnap a governor. And let's keep pretending something so trivial and petty as wearing a mask to reduce the spread of a deadly virus is 1984 and such a harsh restriction on non-existent rights.
 
“If you want to have riots calling or social justice and burn down whole city blocks, that seems to be allowed. If you want to have violent anti-Trump rallies, that seems to be allowed as well. But if you dare to hold a protest against the New World Order, the COVID lockdowns, or the massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil, they come for you and force you to disperse. Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/tho...g-an-immediate-end-to-the-covid-restrictions/

How do you see things taking place right now?

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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
“If you want to have riots calling or social justice and burn down whole city blocks, that seems to be allowed. If you want to have violent anti-Trump rallies, that seems to be allowed as well. But if you dare to hold a protest against the New World Order, the COVID lockdowns, or the massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil, they come for you and force you to disperse. Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/tho...g-an-immediate-end-to-the-covid-restrictions/

How do you see things taking place right now?
93% of the protests have been non-violent, thus what tends to give a false sense of there being more is that the violent ones make the evening news.

Neither Biden nor Harris nor any other Democratic congressperson has justified the use of violence, thus you are not telling the truth. It's no wonder that you continue to support Trump that several Republicans referred to as being a "pathological liar" [their words, not mine] back in 2015-6.

OTOH, Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life...", but Trump certainly doesn't buy into that.
 

rocala

Well-Known Member
Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”
I suspect that George Orwell's surprise is more likely to be about people using his name when they do not have a clue what he was writing about.
 

SeekerOnThePath

On a mountain between Nietzsche and Islam
In all honesty, while taking a radical conspiratorial view might be appealing and easy, in reality I see a world full of spoilt and selfish people who are too up their own backsides, alongside people trying to cause chaos through the way that paranoid theories have on people's minds (take Qanon as an example of the way it enforces nationalism, white supremacy and antisemitism - as a very mainstream example).

The world is too USA-centered too which is a problem because everyone takes on america's problems as their own.
If you're an american from america though, then this doesn't apply to you, in that case you should be sorting your crap out and leaving everyone else alone for once.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
if it isn't becoming more utopic, than is it not then becoming dystopic, or is there another option not mentioned?
or is it fobbed off as being all subjective, and objectively things are always just great?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
“If you want to have riots calling or social justice and burn down whole city blocks, that seems to be allowed. If you want to have violent anti-Trump rallies, that seems to be allowed as well. But if you dare to hold a protest against the New World Order, the COVID lockdowns, or the massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil, they come for you and force you to disperse. Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”

Thousands Of People Protesting The New World Order Lockdowns Descend On London Demanding An Immediate End To The COVID Restrictions • Now The End Begins

How do you see things taking place right now?
Your link is stark, staring bonkers. These fools in London deserve to get arrested for spreading the disease.

Have you read 1984?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The irony is that the OP supports everything that's steering us toward a "1984" scenario.
Yup.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1320690788628598784
We have made tremendous progress with the China Virus, but the Fake News refuses to talk about it this close to the Election. COVID, COVID, COVID is being used by them, in total coordination, in order to change our great early election numbers.Should be an election law violation!
-Trump
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
“If you want to have riots calling or social justice and burn down whole city blocks, that seems to be allowed. If you want to have violent anti-Trump rallies, that seems to be allowed as well. But if you dare to hold a protest against the New World Order,
Just my thought that having lived through the late 1970's until now I am certain The New World Order failed. It was a strong attempt, and it failed. The world is not singing in harmony and is not uniting. Instead the EU lost the UK, is struggling with banking problems and debts. Things are not going towards a new world order. They are going towards separate nations. People since the invention of the telegraph have been hoping and imagining all the countries getting together, but it has not happened. Its nowhere near to happening in our lifetimes, not diplomatically. Its not even on the table.

the COVID lockdowns, or the massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil, they come for you and force you to disperse.
Speaking of the rules about gatherings at churches, right? That is probably government incompetence. They didn't realize it would freak everyone out, and then they doubled down. It'll pass.

Truly the dystopian world envisioned by George Orwell in ‘1984’ is coming true to a degree that might even surprise Orwell.”
The country has rejected socialism and communism, so we are a long way from Orwell. Orwell has people punished if they don't say the right words. In Canada...maybe. Canada is kind of experimenting with that kind of thing but not here in USA.

How do you see things taking place right now?
My opinion is lots of people are out there when I go shopping, and they aren't wearing the masks. This annoys me, and I blame the R party for confusing everyone on the issue. The masks aren't surrender flags they're genuine attempt to slow the spread of a virus. I feel for the older people. The old people are wearing masks and are justifiably concerned about the pandemic, and then there are young people who don't care. Its not cool. I think the sooner we get the virus under control the easier it will be to get all of the businesses and public places back up and running. I want to go the the movies and go places. I think everyone should keep wearing the masks. I agree though that it was stupid for governors to demand churches close, though they should have that power. They should have it but really should only use it for less confusing situations. They would have made a lot better progress by advising people to wear masks, to not overfill public spaces and to ask churches to help. That would have been smart, but they weren't smart. I hope everyone starts wearing the masks, again and that the governors chillaxe and trust the public more.

That being said I think its been good for the church. I think church people should stay home more often and have home meetings more often, but that's me.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
massively lopsided system that punishes good and rewards evil,

That describes Trump and the oligarchy of the right that is basically ruling the US, They lie and complain the left is lying. They act like tyrants and accuse the left of wanting tyranny. They embrace darkness and complain about others promoting darkness. They embrace mammon and complain about others.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I agree though that it was stupid for governors to demand churches close,
Except we saw church gatherings spread the virus. Lots of people gathering indoors is not a good thing right now. Especially with a population who is reluctant to wear a mask and frequently wears them incorrectly.
And the religious simply are not special snowflakes entitled to follow the law at their convenience. They can get over themselves and follow the law like the rest of us.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Except we saw church gatherings spread the virus. Lots of people gathering indoors is not a good thing right now. Especially with a population who is reluctant to wear a mask and frequently wears them incorrectly.
And the religious simply are not special snowflakes entitled to follow the law at their convenience. They can get over themselves and follow the law like the rest of us.
Understood. Did the governors make a mistake in their approach however? The governors efforts have backfired, and now many people think its political oppression. Yes people really, actually genuinely think so and are not pretending about it. Its an election year, and we have people who think this is some kind of power grab, which in a way it is because it is unprecented. The same feelings and concerns about fascism that people on the left have...people on the right have, too. Its actually weird.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
which in a way it is because it is unprecented.
We had an election during the Spanish Flu. It's not unprecedented.
The same feelings and concerns about fascism that people on the left have...people on the right have, too. Its actually weird.
And they are feeling this way over a mask. Clearly it's out of proportion, borderline on going into paranoia.They feel this way about restrictions while a deadly virus is floating around. We can't cater to such massive ignorance.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
And they are feeling this way over a mask. Clearly it's out of proportion, borderline on going into paranoia.They feel this way about restrictions while a deadly virus is floating around. We can't cater to such massive ignorance.
Yes, its paranoia. You have nailed it on the head. The paranoia is real, and its killing people. I probably was exposed to covid 19 yesterday, and I have elderly family here. That is not Ok. My through is a little scratchy. I'm going to bundle up and get nice and hot overnight and make sure no viruses are comfortable
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes, its paranoia. You have nailed it on the head. The paranoia is real, and its killing people. I probably was exposed to covid 19 yesterday, and I have elderly family here. That is not Ok. My through is a little scratchy. I'm going to bundle up and get nice and hot overnight and make sure no viruses are comfortable
Take care.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
93% of the protests have been non-violent, thus what tends to give a false sense of there being more is that the violent ones make the evening news.

Neither Biden nor Harris nor any other Democratic congressperson has justified the use of violence, thus you are not telling the truth. It's no wonder that you continue to support Trump that several Republicans referred to as being a "pathological liar" [their words, not mine] back in 2015-6.

OTOH, Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life...", but Trump certainly doesn't buy into that.
Violence happens where democratic leaders allow the violence to happen.

To excuse violent protests because 93% of protests are non-violent is irresponsible. If only 7% of the world’s nuclear arsenal went off I guess that wouldn’t be a problem either, huh?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Violence happens where democratic leaders allow the violence to happen.
And where Republicans are in control.
This story of it basically being a Democrat thing is a fantasy. It isn't real.

To excuse violent protests because 93% of protests are non-violent is irresponsible.
It's not excusing it. People have to keep pointing out the violence was not a significant part of the protests because RW propaganda spun it by hyper focusing on the rioting as if that was basically all that was going on and over exaggerating damages and how bad things actually got.
 
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