Here's a Question for the Young Creationist

[Sky Rivers]

Could it be that Christ Jesus is trying to wake people up.
As it didn't take much to wake me up, to see who Christ Jesus was in the talking about.
Just ask yourself, Who else besides Christians, Professes to come in the name of Christ.
You do know without having to say anything, the name Christian speaks for itself.
Christian means, A follower of Christ Jesus.
Therefore Christians comes in the name of Christ.

Christian = Christ

As Christ Jesus foretold in the book of
Matthew 24:5---"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many"

That in it's self should wake up every Christian around.
Why is Christ Jesus saying this about us
What are we doing wrong.
The first clue can be found in the book of
Matthew 15:7-9
7--"You hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men"

So here we Christ Jesus condemning those who follow the teachings of man's.

So who's teachings are people actually following, it's evidence people are not following the teachings of Christ Jesus that's for sure.

Let me ask this, alot of people in the churches are being taught about a Rapture, that Christ Jesus will come before the tribulation to rapture them out. Ok

Now in the book of Revelation God given the last Prophecy that is to happen first, before Christ Jesus can return.
That when this last prophecy happens, The tribulation is over and then Christ Jesus returns.

Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy of the book of Revelation happens first,
But when this last prophecy happens the tribulation is over. Then Christ Jesus returns.

So what good is the Rapture going to do. Seeing how Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy happens first, and then the tribulation is over.
So what good is the Rapture going to do?

To my knowledge, the saved are taken up into the clouds, just before "The Day of The Lord" begins. Tribulation doesn't read (in my experience) to be the same thing.

 

[Faithofchristian]

To my knowledge, the saved are taken up into the clouds, just before "The Day of The Lord" begins. Tribulation doesn't read (in my experience) to be the same thing.

What you given is man's teachings.
That goes against what Christ Jesus gave in his book of Revelation.

As Christ Jesus gave the last Prophecy to happen in Revelation That when this last prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns and the tribulation is over.

As Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy happens first,
That Christ Jesus gave in Revelation,
That when this last prophecy happens the tribulation is over and Christ Jesus returns.

So the question is.
Who do you believe will be right.
Man's teachings or the teachings of Christ Jesus ?

Acts 5:29--"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men"

So it is that we are to obey God and his teachings rather than man's teachings.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What you given is man's teachings.
That goes against what Christ Jesus gave in his book of Revelation.

As Christ Jesus gave the last Prophecy to happen in Revelation That when this last prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns and the tribulation is over.

As Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy happens first,
That Christ Jesus gave in Revelation,
That when this last prophecy happens the tribulation is over and Christ Jesus returns.

So the question is.
Who do you believe will be right.
Man's teachings or the teachings of Christ Jesus ?

Acts 5:29--"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men"

So it is that we are to obey God and his teachings rather than man's teachings.

Your interpretation, as bad as it is, is "man's teachings" not "God's teachings". What the world tells us would be closer to "God's teachings" than anything else if God is real. What amazes me is that creationists in effect are calling God a liar without realizing how they are doing that.

 

[Sky Rivers]

What you given is man's teachings.
That goes against what Christ Jesus gave in his book of Revelation.

As Christ Jesus gave the last Prophecy to happen in Revelation That when this last prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns and the tribulation is over.

As Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy happens first,
That Christ Jesus gave in Revelation,
That when this last prophecy happens the tribulation is over and Christ Jesus returns.

So the question is.
Who do you believe will be right.
Man's teachings or the teachings of Christ Jesus ?

Acts 5:29--"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men"

So it is that we are to obey God and his teachings rather than man's teachings.

Since you feel it fit to repeat yourself, would you also care to provide scripture to support your position on Revelation? Also, here are some questions I have for you...

1. You have stated and repeated that Christ will not return until the last prophecy happens. Do you believe that everything, including The Great Day of The Lord must occur, prior to Christ's bodily return?

2. Prior to Christ's bodily return, saved believers ascend up to meet him in the clouds. Do you deny this?

3. Furthermore, there are other prophecies to come after Christ comes to reign on Earth, aren't there? For example, Satan being loosed from the Abyss to once again deceive the nations? The end of the old earth and the creation of a new earth?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Since you feel it fit to repeat yourself, would you also care to provide scripture to support your position on Revelation? Also, here are some questions I have for you...

1. You have stated and repeated that Christ will not return until the last prophecy happens. Do you believe that everything, including The Great Day of The Lord must occur, prior to Christ's bodily return?

2. Prior to Christ's bodily return, saved believers ascend up to meet him in the clouds. Do you deny this?

3. Furthermore, there are other prophecies to come after Christ comes to reign on Earth, aren't there? For example, Satan being loosed from the Abyss to once again deceive the nations? The end of the old earth and the creation of a new earth?

As For #1-- the day of the Lord happens at the return of Christ Jesus and not before

As for #2-- this also happens after Christ Jesus returns and not before.

As for #3-- Those Prophecy can not happen until Christ Jesus returns,
But as for the last Prophecy, this Prophecy is which brings about the Return of Christ Jesus and the end of the Tribulation.

All those other Prophecy's that you mentioned, happens after Christ Jesus has returned.
And not at the time Christ Jesus returns.
only after Christ Jesus has returned.

The Prophecy where Satan is set free from the bottomless pit, this happens after the thousand years have expired and then Satan is free to deceive people one more time.
This Prophecy happens a thousand years after the return of Christ Jesus.

 

[Sky Rivers]

As For #1-- the day of the Lord happens at the return of Christ Jesus and not before

As for #2-- this also happens after Christ Jesus returns and not before.

As for #3-- Those Prophecy can not happen until Christ Jesus returns,
But as for the last Prophecy, this Prophecy is which brings about the Return of Christ Jesus and the end of the Tribulation.

All those other Prophecy's that you mentioned, happens after Christ Jesus has returned.
And not at the time Christ Jesus returns.
only after Christ Jesus has returned.

The Prophecy where Satan is set free from the bottomless pit, this happens after the thousand years have expired and then Satan is free to deceive people one more time.
This Prophecy happens a thousand years after the return of Christ Jesus.

Please, list all which will be done to the earth on The Great Day of The Lord.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Please, list all which will be done to the earth on The Great Day of The Lord.

When Christ Jesus returns on the first day.

#1-- on that first day many Christians are caught in the worshipping the false Christ,
When the real Christ shows up and catches Christians worshipping the false Christ

#2-- on that first day Christ Jesus returns
The tribulation ends, So there wouldn't be any use for the Rapture
Seeing how when the last Prophecy happens brings the end to the tribulation and the return of Christ Jesus.

So Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy happens first, that brings the end to the tribulation and return of Christ Jesus

 

[Sky Rivers]

When Christ Jesus returns on the first day.

#1-- on that first day many Christians are caught in the worshipping the false Christ,
When the real Christ shows up and catches Christians worshipping the false Christ

#2-- on that first day Christ Jesus returns
The tribulation ends, So there wouldn't be any use for the Rapture
Seeing how when the last Prophecy happens brings the end to the tribulation and the return of Christ Jesus.

So Christ Jesus can not return until the last Prophecy happens first, that brings the end to the tribulation and return of Christ Jesus

I don't understand, so best to just leave me to carry on with my studies. I wish you well.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I don't understand, so best to just leave me to carry on with my studies. I wish you well.

The reason that you don't understand it because your not being taught about the book of Revelation.

 

[Muffled]

The proper translation in the Hebrew language in the Strong's concordance of the Greek and Hebrew Languages.
#1961- Hayah, Haw-yaw,

A primitive root, compare- 1933
To exist , ie, be or become,
Come to pass ( always emphatic
And not a mere copula or auxitiary)

Therefore the earth wasn't created without form and void
It became without form and void.

It seems a bit selective to use became instead of exists.

 

[Muffled]

You are, of course, completely correct. Speculation about the past is not science; the scientific method, i.e. directly verifying the null hypothesis, cannot be accomplished without a time machine which, um, we don't have!

Subduction Zone doesn't believe in all those strict rules science has. He is a Global Warming worshiper and has only one two-pronged agenda: destroy capitalism and destroy Christianity.

I believe God knows because He was there.

 

[sooda]

To my knowledge, the saved are taken up into the clouds, just before "The Day of The Lord" begins. Tribulation doesn't read (in my experience) to be the same thing.

All that futurism comes out of the Scofield Heresy.. The tribulation was over in 70 AD.. and there's no such thing as "rapture".


There is not a Bible teacher or anyone else living in the world today, who has found a secret rapture in the Bible by his own independent study of the Bible itself. These teachers come to the Bible with cut and dried theories which they have learned elsewhere, and twist and torture texts to fit the theory.

This Scofield teaching is concerned with a literal Jewish kingdom to last for a millennium. The Bible does not teach it, and the disciples who had been taught it, rejected it after Pentecost. Jesus warned about it in Mt 16:6-12.

Scofield's work was calculated to promote certain ideas. We have to ask ourselves if Jesus ever offered or announced himself as an earthly King or claimed David's throne?

Did he ever in any way suggested he was going to set up an earthly kingdom?

He said to Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world, if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews, but now is my kingdom not from hence." (Jn 18:36.)

They could not prove him guilty before Pilate of any offense against Rome.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe God knows because He was there.

How do know That the God of the Bible was the one that was there?