What's "the right decision" to you?
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Heterosexual sins, adultery, fornication, etc.
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What's "the right decision" to you?
To me, all possible evils are possible choices. All possible goods are possible choices. To give in to the whispers and attacks of devils, and let them convince you to be gay or that you are gay, is evil.
To say "it would be evil if it was a free choice, but it's not a choice", doesn't make sense to me. All evils are potential states, we can choose. I don't see why same sex attraction is different then that.
It's an evil state to give into just like envy. No one tells themselves, "I want to be envious of so and so", but it's a choice to give into to envy and be jealous towards people.
To me the right decision, is to trust, that we humans are created for a higher dignified state with God and look for mental clarity and guidance regarding all our actions.
We may think it's cool to be gay and different as kids, but, we should be informed it's evil by grown ups so that remain upon the straight path.
Prevention is easier then cure in this regard.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Why is any sort of consensual sex a sin?
It's a constant decision to stay true to my nature that God put me upon.
If you're constantly having to convince yourself that you are straight, I have news for you.
I choose to find gayness to be disgusting. If I choose otherwise, I may struggle with it. But as of now, it's disgusting because I see it for what it is. This makes it easy to stay away from.
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
As you yourself note, there's not a lot of focus on heterosexual sins like adultery and fornication. Which is the point. They're accepted as sins such that the sinners who do them try to keep them in the closet or to themselves.
On the other hand, homosexuals, and non-homosexuals alike, these days, like to advertise homosexuality not as a sin, but as the sexual preference of the enlightened people of the world; they're literally advertising, sacralizing, and evangelizing for homosexuality. It's glorified on TV and throughout the memesphere. It's been transformed from a sin, to a litmus test for bigotry: if you consider it a sin you're a bigot. If your engage in it, promote it, or consider it sacred, you're enlightened.
John
firedragon
Veteran Member
Viker. I know a guy in his early fifties who goes for a protest against corruption. Known him pretty much all my life. This guy earned quite a decent amount of money, and is living a comfortable life. Most of this money came from bribes he took from suppliers to the private company he works for.
So he was always corrupt. But he is protesting against corruption.
Do you know why? Because its the fad of the time and land. Go to the protest, drink up well, take a picture or two, post it on Facebook.
So the answer to your OP is found in your own OP. If its the fad, people participate. If it makes you look good, you play ball.
Of course, this is not everyone, and you have a point.
Actually not always. I knew a couple who had an "open marriage". They did not realize that while intellectually it was fine, emotionally it was not and the marriage was destroyed because of adultery.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I think it's pretty disgusting the way Christians and other Abrahamic theists marginalize homosexuals and transgenders. As far as I'm concerned, they're all hypocrites who are guilty of a multitude of sins themselves, including sexual sins. Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart (Matthew 5:27-28). No one can tell me that these same devout theists are not guilty of lust, fornication, and even adultery. Many Christians divorce and remarry, and 68% of Christian men (including pastors) are addicted to pornography. IMO, the Christians and other Abrahamic theists who judge LGBTQ people need to worry about removing the plank in their own eye before they worry about the speck of dust in someone else's eye.
Porn Addiction Statistics
The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:
Homosexuality isn't the only abomination condemned in the Bible. In fact, many abominations are mentioned in the Bible. Lying is another abomination. Stealing, coveting, fornication, and adultery are also condemned in the Bible, and there are seven deadly sins (lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, and pride) mentioned in the Bible. But we don't see or hear any weeping and gnashing of teeth from Christians and other Abrahamic theists over other sins condemned in the Bible. Their preferred morally indignant rants are directed at LGBTQ people. How many of these Christians and other Abrahamic theists are guilty of lying, cheating, lust or taking something that doesn't belong to them (stealing), or they hate another person? The Bible says whoever hates another person is a murderer at heart (1 John 3:15), and the Bible says whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar (1 John 4:20).
Sex abuse scandals plague the Southern Baptist Church and the Catholic Church, and a majority of these devout Christians and other theists still politically support a gravely immoral man who bragged about how he could get away with forcibly kissing women and sexually groping them in-between their legs because he's a celebrity. He's also twice divorced, thrice married and has had multiple affairs, including with a porn star and a Playboy Bunny. In other words, none of these devout theists have a moral leg to stand on when they piously judge LGBTQ people. As the old adage says, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."
Porn Addiction Statistics
The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:
- 77 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
- 36 percent view pornography on a daily basis
- 32 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 12 percent think they may be).
- 77 percent looked at pornography while at work in the past three months.
- 64 percent view pornography at least monthly.
- 18 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 8 percent think they may be).
- 55 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
- 35 percent had an extramarital affair.
Homosexuality isn't the only abomination condemned in the Bible. In fact, many abominations are mentioned in the Bible. Lying is another abomination. Stealing, coveting, fornication, and adultery are also condemned in the Bible, and there are seven deadly sins (lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, and pride) mentioned in the Bible. But we don't see or hear any weeping and gnashing of teeth from Christians and other Abrahamic theists over other sins condemned in the Bible. Their preferred morally indignant rants are directed at LGBTQ people. How many of these Christians and other Abrahamic theists are guilty of lying, cheating, lust or taking something that doesn't belong to them (stealing), or they hate another person? The Bible says whoever hates another person is a murderer at heart (1 John 3:15), and the Bible says whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar (1 John 4:20).
Sex abuse scandals plague the Southern Baptist Church and the Catholic Church, and a majority of these devout Christians and other theists still politically support a gravely immoral man who bragged about how he could get away with forcibly kissing women and sexually groping them in-between their legs because he's a celebrity. He's also twice divorced, thrice married and has had multiple affairs, including with a porn star and a Playboy Bunny. In other words, none of these devout theists have a moral leg to stand on when they piously judge LGBTQ people. As the old adage says, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."
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Yes, that does happen.
But I would say that the marriage wasn't destroyed by adultery, but from insecurity and lack of communication. And non-monogamy isn't the only way those can destroy a marriage
And people also get demonized for being racist or misogynist.
That is a moral *improvement*.
Ella S.
Well-Known Member
That's how I replied at first, but I deleted my reply because I reread the comment and I don't think that's what Gargovic is getting at here.
I think he's just pointing out that they're focusing on what are, to them, hot-button topics.
They might get a free pass from society but do they get it from God? I mean, for those who call themselves Christians, the Bible is very clear on what is and isn't acceptable. So if their faith is real, they must know what kinds of behaviors are seen as a sin by God.
KW
Well-Known Member
The distinction is that you don’t find Christian heterosexuals denying that their sins are sins.
I would not say it is glorified but the acceptance that homosexuality is a reality in all walks of life. TV is simply a reflection of that reality. As for the morality the same would apply, a relational commitment.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
It's easier to focus on a sin you're not likely to commit.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Christians are no more moral than anyone else, but the hetero ones are just glad they're not gay.