Hey Muslims!

[Toxikmynd]

This is going to turn into an anti-muslim thread, I can tell.

 

[gsa]

This is going to turn into an anti-muslim thread, I can tell.

Disagreement with Muslims doesn't make a person "anti-Muslim." Every religion, and every ideology or belief system, is subject to reasonable criticism.

 

[Toxikmynd]

Disagreement with Muslims doesn't make a person "anti-Muslim." Every religion, and every ideology or belief system, is subject to reasonable criticism.

You assume to quickly. I'm just seeing that more and more people are attacking muslims on this thread. Never once do I state anyone, specifically to be anti-muslim.

 

[gsa]

You assume to quickly. I'm just seeing that more and more people are attacking muslims on this thread. Never once do I state anyone, specifically to be anti-muslim.

What attacks on Muslims? So far I've only seen borderline anti-Semitic comments about "godless Jews and their promotion of homosexuality in the Holy Land."

 

[Aquitaine]

Should the Muslim Turks give Constantinople back to the Christians and let them turn the Hagia Sophia back into a church? They could go back to Central Asia after all.

Excellent point.
A lot of the "Islamic world" is territory that was conquered by the Ottoman Empire.
The problem is though, that the same can be said for practically every nation.
Clinging onto the whole "it used to be our ancestral homeland" is kind of redundant, because every nation has changed hands over the centuries.

It appears that the solution is more aimed at encouraging groups/nations of people to live in peace within their own territory, and with their neighbours - easier said than done. :/

 

[rainbowhunter]

to the best of my knowledge a jew is of the faith . an israelite lives in israel ( many muslims and christians live in israel ) but a zionist ( big in america ) want to rebuild solomons temple and bring about armageddon according to its prophecy .

 

[YmirGF]

to the best of my knowledge a jew is of the faith . an israelite lives in israel ( many muslims and christians live in israel ) but a zionist ( big in america ) want to rebuild solomons temple and bring about armageddon according to its prophecy .

Okie dokie.

 

[Sees]

Muslim ruled lands aren't allowed to have regression, plain and simple. People fool themselves if they think it will ever be accepted - and it doesn't affect only Israel.

Sadly the size of the state/nation doesn't even matter. If Israel was a quarter of it's already tiny size, they would still not be left alone. I'm all for having Israel be in the U.S., but that will never happen either.

 

[rainbowhunter]

Okie dokie.

as i said to the best of my knowledge , prey tell .

 

[YmirGF]

as i said to the best of my knowledge , prey tell .

Well, at least you are honest. You might want to investigate the veracity of your suppositions however.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The problem with the zionist entity is her godless rule. The Atheist estabilishment within Holy land is not logical one.
Also the grabbing of lands from the indigenous people(palestinians) is one of the reasons why an caliphate will never allow such entity to operate within the sacred Al-Aqsa. So time is ticking.

Your posts are really scary and only confirm my negative viewpoint of your religion. Oh, and Arabs are not the indigenous people of Israel.

 

[Akivah]

but a zionist ( big in america ) want to rebuild solomons temple and bring about armageddon according to its prophecy .

(snip)

as i said to the best of my knowledge , prey tell .

Then learn what Judaism says about the Messianic Age
Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah

The World To Come will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people. Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. There will be no murder, robbery, competition, or jealously.

 

[rainbowhunter]

interesting and just as worrying , i think im talking about the american neo-con use of the zionist movement and its end game . israel really isnt doing itself any favours , its existence depends on israel turning away from zionism and assimilating into the region or world war . fair assumption ?

 

[Sees]

Your posts are really scary and only confirm my negative viewpoint of your religion. Oh, and Arabs are not the indigenous people of Israel.

I like that he "keeps it real" and doesn't sugarcoat, even if it's not what people want to hear. Even the part about man-made laws being bad juju. Most people don't know traditional Islamic view of man-made laws and secularism is they are idolatry....Muslim conquered lands being allowed to regress is considered failing God, etc. To fight against either isn't considered extreme but standard.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I like that he "keeps it real" and doesn't sugarcoat, even if it's not what people want to hear. Even the part about man-made laws being bad juju. Most people don't know traditional Islamic view of man-made laws and secularism is they are idolatry....Muslim conquered lands being allowed to regress is considered failing God, etc. To fight against either isn't considered extreme but standard.

Yes. He is giving us a glimpse of unvarnished Islam. The Islam apologists on this forum need to take note. I don't see any of them responding to him. Big surprise.

 

[YmirGF]

I like that he "keeps it real" and doesn't sugarcoat, even if it's not what people want to hear. Even the part about man-made laws being bad juju. Most people don't know traditional Islamic view of man-made laws and secularism is they are idolatry....Muslim conquered lands being allowed to regress is considered failing God, etc. To fight against either isn't considered extreme but standard.

Agreed. I actually prefer my Islam "straight up" without the white-washing and window-dressing. At least you know where you stand.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Should the Muslim Turks give Constantinople back to the Christians and let them turn the Hagia Sophia back into a church? They could go back to Central Asia after all.

Should Europeans give Australia, South Africa, Americas back to the real Owners?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I like that he "keeps it real" and doesn't sugarcoat, even if it's not what people want to hear. Even the part about man-made laws being bad juju. Most people don't know traditional Islamic view of man-made laws and secularism is they are idolatry....Muslim conquered lands being allowed to regress is considered failing God, etc. To fight against either isn't considered extreme but standard.

I dont make secret that i prefer the law of Allah above secularism. And that i would love to see Israel being moved to Germany/USA.

But this is my personal belief. Other muslims could disagree with me. Muslims like Abbas who believes in two states.

 

[Augustus]

Should Europeans give Australia, South Africa, Americas back to the real Owners?

No, of course not. None of them should. if we start to tell people to 'go home' then there is nowhere it will stop. Almost every country in the world is full of 'invaders'. You can't punish people for the sins of their forefathers.

Was just pointing out that you consider Jews to be a special case who need to be treated differently to all other people in the world.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Jews and Muslims can come to a agreement without Zionism. Thats my point.
Iam not saying jews should be kicked out. That would be ignorance. Iam only against zionism.