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Mavrikmind

Active Member
Halcyon said:
A Gnostic is someone who seeks or believes they have found gnosis (translates knowledge, but is closer to enlightenment or awakening in meaning) of God.

The golden age of Gnosticism was in the first few centuries after Christ, most Gnostics are and were Christian based, a second large wave of Gnostic thought appeared in medieval times, but was wiped out by the Inquisition (Vatican, not Spanish).
That's not to say all Gnostics were/are Christian, there were Jewish, Islamic and pagan Gnostics. Gnostic thought also found its way into religions such Manichaenism and Mandaism.

To sum up Gnostic belief very briefly, it is that humanity has been separated from God (there are various myths to explain how) and that those who seek and find Gnosis will reunite their souls with God, usually after death.

Thanks Halcyon, that cleared it up for me :D
 
I am a modern Gnostic with new Gnostic Christian theology. The old Gnostics worshipped the Tree of Knowledge but not the Tree of Life because life was deemed a prison for souls. Modern Gnosis honors and cherishes both because without life there is no platform for souls to work out their appointed dramas learning lessons in preparation for the world to come.
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
arielmessenger said:
The old Gnostics worshipped the Tree of Knowledge but not the Tree of Life because life was deemed a prison for souls.
I've never read anything about any Gnostics worshipping either Tree.

arielmessenger said:
Modern Gnosis honors and cherishes both because without life there is no platform for souls to work out their appointed dramas learning lessons in preparation for the world to come.
Sounds more like LDS doctrine to me, not really Gnostic in the ancient or contemporary understanding.
 
Modern gnosticism differs from classical gnosticism in that the ancient duality, the psychological war between body and soul, soul and the material world, has been deemed an untrue doctrine and psychologically unhealthy to maintain.

And, no, you won't find anything in classical Gnostic literature that gives my own analogy of the two Trees of the Garden and I haven't run across any modern authors using the metaphor. It is a shorthand for showing the difference between old and new Gnosticism.

And yes, Native American spirituality has influenced my otherwise Old World Holy Land religious conceptualization just as it did Joseph Smith. God has united East and West in America and neither is whole without the other.
 

yuvgotmel

Well-Known Member
I'm kind of in between a Gnostic and a Kabbalist. I study both. I initially started out studying the Jewish Kabbalah and moved into studies of Gnosticism and then into deeper parts of esotericism.
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
yuvgotmel said:
I'm kind of in between a Gnostic and a Kabbalist. I study both. I initially started out studying the Jewish Kabbalah and moved into studies of Gnosticism and then into deeper parts of esotericism.
cool :D i think we'll get along great
 

Ody

Well-Known Member
yuvgotmel said:
I'm kind of in between a Gnostic and a Kabbalist. I study both. I initially started out studying the Jewish Kabbalah and moved into studies of Gnosticism and then into deeper parts of esotericism.


Then you follow Hollywood Kabbalah.
 

yuvgotmel

Well-Known Member
No...I really don't. I started out studying the Torah and the Jewish writings from the "Old Testament". I attended synagagoues. I became friends with Jews, rabbis and Jewish authors, all of whom who said that I had a "Jewish soul."

I was very interested in Chassidic Judaism, which openly teaches the Kabbalah, and reads aloud from "The Zohar." However, something inside just wouldn't allow me to convert to Judaism. It was something that I struggled with, especially since I have been drawn in that area for such a long time.

So I felt torn for a long time and I became friends with some Gnostics. I started listening to their teachings and found the similarities from Kabbalah in Gnosticism as well. However, I stand firmly against communion, which I equate to human sacrifice and drinking of blood, etc.

The teachings of Jesus, in my opinion and from my research, were not "new" at the time they were presented. In fact, they not only seem reminiscent of Eastern philosophies, but they were also being taught in the Jewish communities as well.

I would convert to Judaism, except that something holds me back from it. I continue to study many religions, not because I'm "lost" or confused, but rather I look for similarities and perspectives, attempting to find the commanalities as well as dissimilarities.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
I am still agnostic, but like some others here, I do have a leaning towards Gnosticism, as well as towards Taoism and Buddhism. I just don't have full belief.
 

spacemonkey

Pneumatic Spiritualist
I wouldn't say gnostics "worshipped" the tree of knowledge, but there is no doubt a certain significance that is given to the tree. I see the serpent in the story as the the hero, possibly a manifistation of the Logos, a kind of Prometheus figure bringing fire to the people despite the danger to himself.
 

Cynic

Well-Known Member
I had been a gnostic for a fairly brief time, although I still find myself reading gnostic texts. Just recently I read from the "Gospel of Truth", and some things about Valentinius.
I have my own philosophy and it deals with objectivism, subjective morality, relativism, stuff like that. It stresses "neutrality", and I find this beneficial for many reasons. One, I try to look at things from multiple sides (i.e. many religions) instead of just clinging to one perspective, such as the gnostic perspective.
 
Buttons* said:
Hi, I'm trying to get a general headcount of how many of us there actually are. If you're gnostic, just post here saying "i'm here" :p
lol :D when you typed hey you! on the forum it got my attention, lol anyway I'm almost gnostic except for one letter
 

NeedingGnosisNow

super-human
Hi, I'm here. I'm still kinda new to Gnosticism but i truly love it. Wish I had a definitive list of material i should read or go by but for now I'll just use the internet for research until i find those books i need.:help:
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Hi, I'm here. I'm still kinda new to Gnosticism but i truly love it. Wish I had a definitive list of material i should read or go by but for now I'll just use the internet for research until i find those books i need.:help:
You might be waiting awhile. Precious little Buttons* hasn't posted in a very long time.

*sniffle*
 
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