Hidden Book mentioned in the Qur'aan

[Lady B]

still hanging in there Al-Amyr, By the way is there a way to fix the thread's growing expansion? hehehe

 

[al-amiyr]

still hanging in there Al-Amyr, By the way is there a way to fix the thread's growing expansion? hehehe

We have not started yet. Later we will begin to see some action. For now I can say just
:rainbow::canoe::canoe::canoe::canoe:

:grill::camp:

 

[Lady B]

We have not started yet. Later we will begin to see some action. For now I can say just
:rainbow::canoe::canoe::canoe::canoe:

:grill::camp:

cute....I meant that when you put those wide graphics/diagrams on the thread it expands it and we have to mouse over to read them. I was trying to be funny, but it seems you have fixed it now....Thanks

 

[the_thinker]

For what its worth, I'll put forward what I understand from these sayings.

God is speaking of a distinct Book, which is the Hidden Book, that is what is in His Hands. He is claiming to be the sole possessor and keeper and author of this Book.

When the time comes for people to attain to a general understanding of the nature, content and message of the Hidden Book, then by way of understanding it, people will also be able to understand that God truly has spoken to all the ancient prophets and that the Gospels and Jesus were valid and that Mohammed too was a valid prophet of God. There will be a common and unifying message that will knit all of the sincere of the seed of Abraham into a new spiritual family that will bring to pass all of the promised blessings that Abraham and his seed were fore-ordained to bring to the world, and that is despite the degree to which the wicked have twisted and corrupted things and used them for their own advantage contrary to what is the Mind and intent of God.

While the Bible does say some about the "sealed book", such as in Daniel 12:4 and Revelation 5, I am very blown away by just how prolific the mention of the sealed book is in the Qur'aan. Without a doubt, it indeed contains a very detailed description of the Hidden Book.

Thanks for the response much appreciated.

I actually had in mind that "what is between His hands"and the actual "hidden book" are two distinct entities here which is separated by the word Wa in arabic which means and. "What is between His Hands" sounds like, if i can put it this way, "The Database" from which "The Hidden Book"as well as all other books of God have been generated.

For the Qur'an speaks about Kitaabim-Maknoon (The Hidden Book) and Ummil-Kitaab(the Origin/Source of the Book)...while The book of Genesis speaks about "in the state of the head..."

 

[kylixguru]

Thanks for the response much appreciated.

I actually had in mind that "what is between His hands"and the actual "hidden book" are two distinct entities here which is separated by the word Wa in arabic which means and. "What is between His Hands" sounds like, if i can put it this way, "The Database" from which "The Hidden Book"as well as all other books of God have been generated.

For the Qur'an speaks about Kitaabim-Maknoon (The Hidden Book) and Ummil-Kitaab(the Origin/Source of the Book)...while The book of Genesis speaks about "in the state of the head..."

Interesting thoughts. Perhaps al-amiyr will shed more light on this.

 

[al-amiyr]

i have followed this thread and read through it all thoroughly.

I am looking forward to the next post:yes: seems very very interesting thus far

I have a question: The quote stated above [FONT=&quot]010:037, says about the Quran :
1. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]it is a confirmation of What is between His Hands and
[/FONT]2[FONT=&quot]. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]a detailed explanation of the Book (al_kitaab)

[/FONT]What does number 1 above refer to? what is between God's Hands? Is there maybe another reference that explains it?

For what its worth, I'll put forward what I understand from these sayings.

God is speaking of a distinct Book, which is the Hidden Book, that is what is in His Hands. He is claiming to be the sole possessor and keeper and author of this Book.

When the time comes for people to attain to a general understanding of the nature, content and message of the Hidden Book, then by way of understanding it, people will also be able to understand that God truly has spoken to all the ancient prophets and that the Gospels and Jesus were valid and that Mohammed too was a valid prophet of God. There will be a common and unifying message that will knit all of the sincere of the seed of Abraham into a new spiritual family that will bring to pass all of the promised blessings that Abraham and his seed were fore-ordained to bring to the world, and that is despite the degree to which the wicked have twisted and corrupted things and used them for their own advantage contrary to what is the Mind and intent of God.

While the Bible does say some about the "sealed book", such as in Daniel 12:4 and Revelation 5, I am very blown away by just how prolific the mention of the sealed book is in the Qur'aan. Without a doubt, it indeed contains a very detailed description of the Hidden Book.

Thanks for the response much appreciated.

I actually had in mind that "what is between His hands"and the actual "hidden book" are two distinct entities here which is separated by the word Wa in arabic which means and. "What is between His Hands" sounds like, if i can put it this way, "The Database" from which "The Hidden Book"as well as all other books of God have been generated.

For the Qur'an speaks about Kitaabim-Maknoon (The Hidden Book) and Ummil-Kitaab(the Origin/Source of the Book)...while The book of Genesis speaks about "in the state of the head..."

Interesting thoughts. Perhaps al-amiyr will shed more light on this.

What is between the Hands of ALLAAH - ELOHIYM is the Torah and what is in the Torah is the Hidden Book and what is in the Hidden Book is the Qur'aan. We shall discuss the Gospel at a later stage. Read the following passages of the Qur'aan. Tell me what your opinions are because I see that you are both becoming qualified to express an opinion on these matters. At this stage ALLAAH - ELOHIYM enlightens further whom He wills.

[FONT=&quot]The second coming in written form of the Book (al_kitaab).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ALLAAH sends Jesus ("iysaa) (D+) and with him He[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]sends the Book (al_kitaab) via the Gospel (al_'injiyl).[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]003:042
And behold! The Angels said "O Mary! ALLAAH gives thee good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Christ Jesus, the Son of Mary distinguished in this world and the hereafter.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]003:045
"He shall speak to the people in the cradle and middle age"[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]003:047
She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?" He said: "Like that it is to thee; ALLAAH creates what He wills. When He has executed a command and then He just says to it BE! And then it IS.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]003:048
And ALLAAH will teach him the Book (al_kitaab) and the Wisdom (al_hikmah) and the Torah (al_tawrah) and the Gospel (al_'injiyl).[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]005:49
And in their footsteps We sent Jesus (D+), the Son of Mary (s+) confirming what is between His Hands from the Torah. And We sent him the Gospel wherein is Guidance and Light and confirming what is between His Hands from the Torah a Guidance and an Admonition to those who fear ALLAAH.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]005:069
If they had abided by The Torah and The Gospel and what has been revealed to them from their Lord they would have been nourished from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a rightly guided- directed people but many of them bad is what they do.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]005:014
And from among those who said, "truly we are Christian" We did take their Covenant but they forgot a good part of what they were reminded of. And so We brought among them antagonism and hatred until he Day of Resurrection. And ALLAAH will inform them in what it was they have done.

[/FONT]To give you an idea for now what the Book (al-kitaab) is " They are all the meanings of the letters of the Hebrew and Arabic Alphabets which are all multi-dimensional matter-space-time configurations. For example the letter em (M) stands for the circle X/2+Y/2 = R/2 . When you read (qur'aan) the divine books of ALLAAH then you read these letters which have meanings just like mathematicians read their mathematics formulae.It is this that I am explaining in this thread. Ask as many questions. It may be that the Lord will take us much deeper than we now are on our different levels.

 

[al-amiyr]

[FONT=&quot].[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]This section continued from post #119 from #112 from #110 from #107 from +.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Step by step easy and quickest entry into the book (al-kitaab).[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]

Thank you. I'm ready for you to continue.

Remember and take into account that it was said that,
"If you have not followed this thread from the beginning until now then you might not understand a thing what is going to be explained. Go back to post one and make yourself familiar with the subject of the thread.If you feel that you are ready then you can board on this greatest journey."

Let us continue!

Recall that it was said that,
"There was nothing but the infinite dark black matterless spaceless timeless void (emptiness). This entire state is referred to as the L.( Do not say the name of the letter which is in English E[/FONT][FONT=&quot]L[/FONT][FONT=&quot]which is in Hebrew[/FONT][FONT=&quot]L[/FONT][FONT=&quot]aamed [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and which is in Arabic[/FONT][FONT=&quot] L[/FONT][FONT=&quot]aam[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. Just say the sound LLLLLLLLLLLL. L represents the zero to infinite dimensions (for now leave this for a later explanation because it is better to take it dimension at a time)."

And remember it was also said that,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"Every letter of the Qur’aan and the Torah has a specific meaning; each having its function in a specific alphabetical set of multi-dimensional matter/space/time configurations. If this knowledge is not known, the Qur’aan and the Torah become argumentations of endless varied interpretations; thus unlawful interpretations of its hidden meanings – a great deviating sin indeed. If it is all perfectly known then everything in the universe and beyond is fully understood."

"When ALLAAH – ELOHIYM brought into physical existence the universe, He executed a program called the Book (al-kitaab) or the Scroll (al-sifr) which was already eternally present in His knowledge. In this Book (al-kitaab) – which is based on the numbers of the Real Number Line – the infinite matterless spaceless timeless zero to infinite dimensional dark void is referred to as L."[/FONT]

​

[FONT=&quot]
At this point in matterlessness spacelessness timelessness L was nameless. There was no movement and there was no sound. The whole void was nothing else but only L. And the whole L in the existence of ALLAAH - ELOHIYM.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"aL iL uL - Laa Liy Luw - aLLaa aLLiy aLLuw"

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Come let us now go and see how ALLAAH - ELOHIYM made the first spacial dimensions: the straight line named Laam and the circle called Miym. [/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]What is a dimension? or what are dimensions?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
There are a number of ways one can think of what a dimension is or what dimensions are. Here, for now, I will describe it as a medium in which one can move.

A Point
-is described as zero dimensional because it represents a location in which no movement can take place.

A Line and a Circle
- a line is described as one dimensional because movement can take place in it only going forwards or backwards.
- a circle is described as a line that curves back on itself and therefore also described as one dimensional because movement can take place in it only going forwards or backwards.

A Plane
- a plane is described as two dimensional because movement can take place in it not only going forwards or backwards but also left or right.

A Solid
- a solid is described as three dimensional because movement can take place in it not only going forwards or backwards or left or right but also up or down.

As we go along we shall encounter more detailed explanations of what dimensions are. For now, what has been described above is sufficient for us to proceed into the first stage of the Book (al-kitaab). We will see how the Book (al-kitaab) delineates and names these dimensions from a unique prime number 1234567891 that takes us through the digits of the decimal number line. I shall explain in great detail about it in a future thread that would be called (The Qur'aan Mathematical Model) inshaa allaah.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Remember that it was said and I quote from a previous post that,
"In your physical world many languages are spoken. Languages are made up of meaningful units called words; the words consists of individual sounds; the sounds are represented by symbols called letters when in its written form; the sounds and its representative letters are further divided into two major groups called vowels and consonants which are then further divided into further divisions according to their manner of utterance.
In your physical world, to you, none of your languages, words, sounds,letters, vowels, consonants, etc. has any intrinsic meaning. To ask such a question would be deemed as an insult to the human intellect. Ask the scientists of the physical world and and observe their response.

But here in this world of the Unhidden Book as it was said before there is nothing that does not have meaning; every language, every word, every sound, every letter, every vowel, every consonant, etc. has exact or precise meaning. Not just any arbitrary meaning bestowed upon it without any regard to actual or factual reality but it became the meaning because it is the reality. In other words it is the truth existentialized (brought into existence).

If you were to ask the great Atheist and non Atheist scientists of the Earth and all their fellow learned associates as well as the whole of mankind just this one simple question, [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"What is the meaning of the vowel "a"? [/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]You will see that they would be dumbfounded. Even if they had brought all the King's wise men and all the King's books they would never be able to put an answer to that simplest and easiest of questions; even if they continued to back up each other with all the help and support. It will be seen that, in the presence of the knowledge of the Book (al-kitaab), that this world has not yet learned the "a" of their "a b c" but yet they proudly wave the flag that they are in reach of the "x y z"."

Due to space constraints of the posting space I shall continue this post in a following post with the following vowel discussions with graphic delineations.

Remember that it was also said and I quote from the post,
"The vowels a - i - u represent motions.
a = going out motion (from the beginning point)
i = coming in motion (from the end point)
u = going out motion;coming in motion; going in and out motion (from any point)"

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]And remember that it was also said that,
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]"The R ( r ) the active universal operator within the motionless L responsible for bringing into being physical existence. It represents the Ruwh (Spirit) of ALLAAH - ELOHIYM as well as His Thought."

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• [FONT=&quot] To be continued inshaa allaah i.e. if God had willed (the time).[/FONT]

 

[kylixguru]

Ok, I'm with you. Please continue.

 

[Lady B]

I think one of your threads is gone, will it come back?

 

[al-amiyr]

I think one of your threads is gone, will it come back?

It appears that it was your favorite posting thread.

)clap:clap :canoe::clap:clap)(

 

[Lady B]

It appears that it was your favorite posting thread.

)clap:clap :canoe::clap:clap)(

nah, I gave up on that thread a while back when it became disrespectful, I am just sad that it was your thread and you did much work there also.

 

[al-amiyr]

Originally Posted by al-amiyr
Yes I can. This knowledge is only with one family on earth.I shall present you with all the proofs.

Can you provide a reference for this in teh light of Qura'an or Hadith. Thanks !

Yes I can. I have already given the proofs from the Qur'aan about how the Book (al-kitaab) passed through a family line through the ages. I can give more if you wish if you have not been clear upon the matter as yet.

Read the following and the hadiyths that follow.

I once wrote and I quote the article.

[FONT=&quot][Where is the Book (al_kitaab) now?][/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Click here very soon to see for yourself (if God had willed) the journey of the Book (al_kitaab) through one thousand four hundred years from the Prophet through forty-four generations of the stem ("itrah) of his family.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
Hope you will not be of those who will begin to hate us and want to kill us and cut off our heads and crucify us like they did to our forefathers in order to stop the Knowledge from reaching the World. With the result that twice we had to go into hiding from the world completely.

Our Lord alone knows best if this is the end of the Line.
But we as always have always been willing to lay down our lives for our Lord. How we served the world! And how they repaid us! Look at the History. It is all recorded.

Here are three statements from the Prophet himself to you. Consider it very well.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]

Tirmidhi: 3786[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jabir ibn Abdullah said:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“I saw the Messenger of ALLAAH (S+) during his Pilgrimage. He was upon his camel Al-Qaswaa’, giving a sermon, so he said: O people! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray: the Book (al_kitaab) of ALLAAH, and the stem (“itrah), of the family of my House (Ahl-ul-bayt). (Sahih)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Thirmidhi: 3788[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Zayd ibn Arqam narrated that the Messenger of ALLAAH (S+) said, “Indeed, I am leaving among you, that which if you hold fast to them, you shall not be misguided after me. One of them is heavier than the other: the Book (al_kitaab) of Allah which is a rope extended from the sky to the earth, and the stem ("itrah) – of the family of my house – and the two of them shall not separate from each other until they meet me at the Pond in Heaven, so look at how you deal with them after me.” [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Sunan Ibn Majah: 4082[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It was narrated that Abdullah said: “While we were with the Messenger of Allah, some youth from Banu Hashim (Quraysh family of Muhammad (S+) came along. When the Prophet saw them, his eyes filled with tears and the colour of his face changed. I said:”We still see something in your face that we do not like (to see).” He (Prophet) said: “We are the members of Household for whom Allah has chosen the Hereafter over this world. The family of my house will face disaster, expulsion, and exile after I am gone....”[/FONT]

And the world of Islaam has been fighting against, fighting for and fighting with this family ever since. That is why they went into hiding. I can give you the full historical details if you wish to go further inshaa allaah.

 

[the_thinker]

Please go further al-amiyr